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[–] SaladKing@lemm.ee 108 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All the more reason for me not to purchase it.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

After the initial excitement I think the Switch 2 is gonna bomb. Offers too little for too much.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe if it was 349 or 399... but 499 is wild

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Just yesterday I spent 3 hours playing MK8D on my PC. Cozy on my bed and a controller + a remote keyboard.
Felt like the real deal.

Edit: Why the downvotes? Is emulation so frowned upon here?

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 67 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I implore people to watch the teardown guide itself, which is way more nuanced than the clickbaity The Verge article.

I'm not a fan of the use of glue in the joycon sides and the fact that the color strips under the controllers are hiding screws. The bigger complaint is the battery glue, especially because you can imagine aftermarket parts with bigger capacity could be a thing here. I definitely wouldn't open this thing unless it has a problem.

Some components are still modular, which is nice. I can't imagine the sticks not having changed design is great, but it's entirely possible they're way more durable, which the teardown acknowledges. Keep in mind that, while all controllers can drift, most controllers don't fail that way. It's possible to build this type of stick without widespread issues. Time will tell, though.

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 30 points 20 hours ago (11 children)

The switch 2 gives out complete apple vibes. It's repairability is pretty horrid after watching the teardown guide.

Controllers will fail sooner or later and will have to be replaced. Here it will end up replacing the whole stick just due to glueing small parts of the controller.

Battery will also fail sooner than later. The whole thing yells planned absolesence...

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 42 points 17 hours ago

Part of the difficulty is that Nintendo have hitsquads that will blow your city if you even look sideways at one of the screw.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 41 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Not surprising. Nintendo is turning into the Apple of the video game world.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 12 hours ago

Even Apple makes more repairable hardware.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

Nintendo has been the Apple of the video game world since the N64.

[–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 37 points 13 hours ago

Not surprised, given it's Nintendo. My Switch Lite has seen very little use since I got my Steam Deck, tho.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 36 points 10 hours ago

I really appreciate iFixit and how they help bring the discussion of repairability to the forefront.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hope the drift issue is fixed. Ran into the issue with two of mine. The paper under the joystick hack didn't work and one of the brand new replacement joysticks I installed isn't responsive. 🙄

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Spoiler alert: it's not. Same joysticks as last time.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's the same joystick design. As the video says that doesn't mean it will have the same issues as frequently, but it does mean it can have the same issues. The question will be at what rate.

Given the coverage I have very low hopes that we will get a good idea of that from the press. Instead I expect the first Switch 2 joycon to drift will be put on an auction sale for every clickbait article to parade in front of people with rotten tomatoes at the ready. Still, it will matter if it's one in two or one in a million.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 21 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

They could have easily fixed it with hall effect sticks. That is a proven and inexpensive solution, but Nintendo prefers to sell more joycons and create waste, it's that simple.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Are you fucking kidding? They didn't switch to Hall effect?

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[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not, and the joycons are even HARDER to repair due to a piece of plastic glued over a screw on the inside..

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago

Congrats it's worse! Harder to get to :)

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 26 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

What’s the appeal of the switch for when PC handhelds exist ? I just don’t get it why you would buy this unless you had children. Nintendo Games are good but they’re really not that good either.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 33 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

People like playing Nintendo original games. Mario games, Zelda games, etc.

The only way to legally play those is on the switch.

Yes, even non children play those games.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You can legally play them on an ROG Ally or other Pc handheld . It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.

But I get that it’s just that I don’t think Nintendo games warrant buying an entire system anymore. If their consoles had more third party support maybe, but I just don’t see the value at the current price of the console.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.

In a lot of place it is illegal to circumvent technical protection measures, which is technically required for almost anything starting from NES era. Making it impossible to "legally" rip your own games (yes, even in places where there IS a tax to allow private copy of content you bought). So the only way you can do that is by downloading it, where there is no "legal" way to distribute it in the first place, so "legally" you can't download it either.

I'm not defending the practice, I'm saying that if you're going the "legal" defense, you're going to have a bad time if it gets attention. Fortunately, suing every single gamer on earth is not an attractive prospect.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 17 points 14 hours ago

I have children, like their first party titles, and dislike piracy. I also have a PC handheld that gets more use than the Switch, and I like both.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Mario. Zelda. Metroid. For a time the occasional Splatoon. Maybe a Wario once in a while too. Some Pikmin. Even the built-in (paid) list of emulator games are attractive.

Also, you severely underestimate the convenience factor for a lot of people. Yeah, I have a Steam Deck, and 95% of the time, it's a completely seamless experience. With consoles, it's 100% of the time. People want a "I turn it on, I start a game", not a "I turn it on, I might be able to start a game, and sometimes it needs a bit of fiddling, not much, but, more than zero. And sure, I could have this or that other thing by going there and running that, you know, sometimes".

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

with consoles, it's 100% of the time

Several Switch 1 games are facing issues on Switch 2, including broken textures, crashes and weird behavior. This whole "consoles are 100%!" idea has been dead since the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 generation.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Battery life and weight. That’s what keeps me from getting a pc handheld. Although the switch 2 is so big I don’t know if that holds true anymore

[–] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Switch 2 battery life also isn't fantastic.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 9 points 15 hours ago

From my friend, the main advantage the switch have is the UI for games is being design for handheld from the get go, so big, readable font and icon is by default already there and is made to fit. PC game tend to made for either a 24inch or so monitor or big tv for couch gaming, games that doesn't have UI accessibility option on a handheld PC is unplayable for a lot of people.

Also that damn controller can be split so coop is so accessible. Not to mention that first party games.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 7 points 17 hours ago

My Switch Lite is far more comfortable for me to play with than my Steam Deck. I know there are people who say that the Steam Deck is more comfortable and I believe them, but I get tired holding something big and heavy.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 14 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I wonder if Nintendo will ever embrace repairability like some phone companies have

I guess there's more competition in phones than in devices that can run Mario Cart

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 16 hours ago

If you consider how hostile they are with everything else, I highly doubt it. Nintendo never again

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Great video. That's a disappointing outcome though.

It was interesting to hear though that Nintendo hasn't made any replacement parts available for the original switch, despite the fact that New York State apparently requires this by law.

I wonder if they'll be forced to comply with that at some point. There are probably other jurisdictions that require this or that will require this soon. I'd love to see some pressure applied to companies that don't make replacement parts available.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

At this point I trust in the EU to force Nintendo to play the right-to-repair game.

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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 8 points 23 hours ago

Haha when they did that blog post to change the switch from 8/10 to 4/10 saying they don't normally do that but wanted to make sure you could compare the 2 properly against the original, I thought they were making space for the 2 to be above the original, not that they were going to mark it as worse 😅

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 7 points 4 hours ago

Not a problem. I wasn't gonna buy one amyways.

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