Yes. please take him.
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Do we really want the guy who just made off with a large portion of government sensitive data to go to Russia?
Do you think physical distance is keeping the data safely within our borders?
Physical distance of his testicles and some pliers might be the deciding factor between giving all the data and ALL the data.
If I may put on my conspiracy theory hat:
With all the DOGE-starlink-russia shit I've been reading about, I wouldn't be surprised if Russia has a data pipeline directly to the US government, no Musk required. I would guess it would be more of a "he might tell the US government what/how we know" which would require coming up with a new golden pipeline.
Kinda like how the Cheeto Taco unwittingly showed the world the US satellite capabilities in his first term by showing a picture. There's a lot of information Musk could tell the US about his visits with Putin, where if he was in Russia, the US is stuck guessing what made it out and what Russia has access to.
Russia already has all the data, silly. It would be fun if they try to confirm that Elmo's not holding some out, with a pair of pliers though...:)
they hacked it the moment doge had access to those databaes.
Like he hasn't already given Russia the data.
I'd rather punish him here
Between Agent Krasnov and Agent Muskovite I'm sure they already have full access, this is just their way of getting a dig in at everyone who already knows this is the case. The Kremlin is basically rubbing it in our faces to tell us they own all these guys and they know there's nothing we can do about it.
The guy in the White House already gave it to them.
Yes we do.
"Elon has too much government information to go to Russia!"
Y'all, please, listen, Russia already has our government information. The important thing to note here is that whether Elon runs off to Moscow or not, Russia making the offer may well drive a wedge between Russia and Trump. That, in and of itself, is good news. Trump has very few political allies at this point, with most of the world turning against him and trusting the US less. If he is even further alienated, there's a decent chance his party loses reelection or refuses to go along with his insane 3rd term plans. It'll take us a long time to rebuild international goodwill, but alienating Trump is a good thing.
Happy to proven wrong is there's an aspect I'm not considering here, but in my mind when the fascist fight each other it's good for the rest of us. Makes them easier to tackle, especially if the nonfash (and specifically the left) can unify.
I just want to watch Trump have a full-on narcissistic collapse.
Sure, why not? I hear Russia is extremely drug-use-positive and cultivates oligarchs who don't submit to authority.
They have incredible windows too
I mean Putin already has his ear. Guess they want the rest of him.
I seriously applaud whoever managed to push that through.
I don't support anything they do, but that is top tier comedy.
The dude with access to all of the federal government data gets offered asylum and you wonder how that happens?
Well both Trump and Elon have Russian ties. Right now Trump is the bigger asset to them. So if they publicly offer asylum to Musk, it makes Elon look like the worse bad guy and make Trump less bad and possibly slow any attempts to having him removed by the Senate.
So Russia can get Elons money being spent there, and Trump's dumbassery trying to reduce and remove sanctions against Russia.
In their eyes it's a win win.
Do it. Pull a Steven Seagal.
Yeah, but what would passing out and shitting himself really accomplish? Focus, man!
From Ketamine to Krokodil, hell yeah I hope Elon takes Putler up on that offer
No, no, no.
I live in Finland and that is too close.
So it is all theatre.
Because Russia is now involved in the "fued." Orchastraited by the Kremlin no doubt. Is it to set up reasoning to help Elon avoid legal consequences in exchange for money? Data? Is it to distract from the funding bill and policies being enacted to kill 258,000,000 Americans?
Wait, what about "killing 258 million americans"? What did I miss? That's a larger portion than I'd suspected they were aiming for...
Russia must be loving this. Now nobody is talking about a third of their air force being wiped out by toy drones.
If Musk actually does go to Russia, then I think any of his American investments will be up for grabs. That would be quite entertaining.
I'm not sure it's a smart move by Russia if a Russian official sides with Musk at this point. Not saying it's not a perfect match though.
I was honestly surprised that they went with such a statement. Putin is smart enough (smarter than much of the US) to understand that Trump is a lazy degenerate, but it seems a bit premature to openly ridicule Trump.
That would not end well.
He should do it.
Of course he can, he's earned it several time over. He's done more damage to the US on Russia's behalf than 50 years of Cold War ever did.
How quickly and conveniently they offered him asylum and publicly 🤣😆
If his story ends in defenestration I would be tickled.
Assuming the feud is real (I'm still suspicious, as when they announced him leaving no one believed musk was truly leaving) I would imagine musk would try to get trump removed and after failing I really wouldn't be surprised we would see some assassination attempts.
BTW I'm not on Twitter, but when he says that trump wouldn't win election without him, I wish people would respond that he is full of bullshit and trump alone would win anyway, pushing him to say more.
when he says that trump wouldn’t win election without him, I wish people would respond that he is full of bullshit and trump alone would win anyway, pushing him to say more.
I believe that Trump may not have won without him. He weaponized twitter to push misinformation against the Dems and in favour of Trump. I don't know if the result of that can be quantified in such a way that we'd know for sure whether it changed the outcome, but it certainly had an impact.
Sorry for not being clear. I do too think that musk helped in a significant way, but I wanted to someone to reasons to musk this way to trigger him and hopefully spill more incriminating information.
I think what another important thing he did is he spoiled the place for the democrat-leaning public that started to see less and less content\traction\support there than they did before, but saw swarms of bots, elonposting, weakening factcheck and moderation instead. Twitter launched a lot of #movements, even those localized in the internet, due to it's turbulent nature. But on X many felt disengaged, lonely and not pumped up enough to do anything, even vote.
He'd have a good time there with the others who got asylum... Assad, Yanukovych, Marsalek, ...
Take it! I mean, people act like he “owns” his companies but he owns like 8% of Tesla and SpaceX is probably similar. No one gives a shit about his monkey torture project and X+xAI is worthless. Boring Company isn’t doing anything. And if you’re the “CEO” of more than one company, you’re actually running zero. He’s a mascot. We could probably be rid of him for less than the price of widening an interstate for ignorant reasons.
SpaceX is probably similar
Tesla is a publicly-traded company. There is no reason to believe SpaceX, which is still privately held, should be similar.
A 2023 Wall Street Journal article (linked here in archive form) claims Musk controls 42% of its equity has 79% voting control.
Thank you for the clarification. None of us know their cap table, obviously, but that’s more plausible than me just guessing based on Tesla.
Wait I'm out of the loop, musk and trump have been fighting?
Yes, very publicly, but remember that they lie about everything anyway. So it's not like the world is a better place because two pieces of s*** are insulting each other in front of the world. They could fight today and work together next week if they think it'll get them more power and money, because that's all they live for.
Exactly what everyone expected would happen is happening.
The 2 egomaniacs are sick of each other and lashing out.
Oh man, I'm jealous you get to hear it all at once. It's only been a couple days.
he lasted 6.7 longer than truss.
This is fucking hilarious