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[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 105 points 3 days ago (8 children)

And then the people all clapped and patted themselves on the back for saving the guy and went about their day. But the guy went back to the same life full of problems that led him to despair. Crippling debt or depression. Estrangement from loved ones that are no longer willing to reconnect. Loneliness or defamation or disease. It's easy to save someone from jumping, but this is not help. That is not the help they need. They need constant and long term help, assistance, and support.

Saving a stranger from a suicide attempt has a vibe to it like preventing an abortion from happening without providing any further support for the mother or the child. Congrats, you saved a life, technically. But you did nothing to save the life.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a chance someone else in that crowd understood and began taking daily time to interact with the man. It's not impossible.

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[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (7 children)

No you dumbass they are going to be sent to get help.

Nearly everyone that attempts suicide and survives regrets trying and are glad they've failed.

Sorry for my strong language, but I've had friends and loved ones struggle with mental illness. A few have attempted suicide and either failed or have been stopped. I once took a friend's gun the day before he tried to commit suicide. If I had not done that he would be dead today, but today he is happy. He has a life worth living and is doing infinitely better.

Suicide attempts are a mental health crisis. In that moment that person is not of a sound mind and incapable of making that decision.

This is nothing like going to a doctor and seeking a medical procedure like an abortion. If anything this is like a woman throwing herself down the stairs in an attempt to end a pregnancy. They don't need to be allowed to throw themselves down the stairs. They need to be stopped and given access to proper medical care.

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[–] jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Damn the guy must have felt terrible in that moment.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Well yeah you finally have the knowledge that this earth isn't worth living in and finally overcame your body's built in instinct to not die, and some assholes literally force you to stay alive by grabbing onto you like nearly every depiction of hell or hades that has ever existed including tying you to the bridge with ropes.

[–] jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

From a suicidal persons pov that’s exactly what I imagine that would feel like. Also the insane amount of embarrassment from a huge crowd of people that are all there because of you. Some of whom are probably “it’s all in your head” kind of people. It is hard enough to open up and show your feelings to one trusted person, let alone an effin crowd.

That said, the guy that they saved can now say “F you and see you tomorrow” so that’s something.

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[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I bet they chatted shit to him about their god as well

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

Fuck you. But I'd save you anyway.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Then, after you get “saved” from suicide, they strip you of your rights and shove you in a cell for up to five days.

And that attitude is what the staff will have towards you. You are there to be punished for daring to be suicidal and trying to reject the gift of life. You’ll probably lose your job after the hospital stay, and then get stuck with thousands in bills for the “treatment” (sitting in a room watching day time tv while you listen to people in psychosis or dementia getting the shit beaten out of them by the staff.)

But this is a good thing! It’s so much better to be alive then not dead, that’s why we need to abuse suicidal people!

[–] coldasblues@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago

No no, you don't get it. You have to suicide the slow American way with cancer and heart disease. Pick your favorite form of socially acceptable self mutilation today!

[–] Tja@programming.dev 27 points 2 days ago (8 children)
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[–] TheTurner@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is why I never told anyone when I held a gun to my head. I was afraid it would ruin my life after I didn't do it.

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[–] brognak@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yepo. I was on a 72hr hold after a manic episode caused by a med interaction (Wellbutrin, took away the mild depression but let the massive anxiety run wild) and it was the worst fucking experience of my life. Literally just stick you in a program that doesn't give a fuck about why your there, just headcount they can bill for. I was perfectly fine like 2hrs after I got locked in and spent the remaining 70hrs climbing the walls.

0/10 Do not recommend. And this was in Massachusetts, a place wildly known for good healthcare.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I’m in Oklahoma. I went in voluntary a few months ago for suicidal ideation (which I think is a rational reaction to the events of November…)

They upgraded me to involuntary illegally (like, a single therapist accused me of lying when I said I was no longer suicidal, and made the call to hold me.) I had vape smoke blown in my face, was misgendered and assaulted by staff.

I won’t call 988 or any service like that ever. There is no accountability or safety here

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[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Nobody asks to be brought into this world. You should be allowed to determine when you've had enough.

[–] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No. You stay. Suffer alongside us. No one clocks out early.

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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Whether out in public or in private is better, depends on context.

Although it's probably a bit beyond social media debate. When it comes down to "seeing a strangers body floating in the river" , "finding your sibling hanging in the next room" or "found at a kindergarten playground".

spoilerAll of those examples are based on real life acquaintances who ended their lives, and their discovery. And to be clear: The kindergarten one was discovered before the kids arrived.

If assisted suicide was accessible public suicides likely wouldn't be common. The number of people with exploded heads that emergency responders find would decline drastically I imagine.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Then where? Not like you can walk into a funeral home and be like "Yep, I'm done, I'll take your deluxe 'End it now' package please"

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

You can in some countries.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Ohh, my turn to post this classic:

The view from halfway down - Alison Tafel 

The weak breeze whispers nothing
the water screams sublime.
His feet shift, teeter-totter
deep breaths, stand back, it’s time.

Toes untouch the overpass
soon he’s water-bound.
Eyes locked shut but peek to see
the view from halfway down.

A little wind, a summer sun
a river rich and regal.
A flood of fond endorphins
brings a calm that knows no equal.

You’re flying now, you see things
much more clear than from the ground.
It's all okay, or it would be
were you not now halfway down.

Thrash to break from gravity
what now could slow the drop?
All I’d give for toes to touch
the safety back at top.

But this is it, the deed is done
silence drowns the sound.
Before I leaped I should've seen
the view from halfway down.

I really should’ve thought about
the view from halfway down.
I wish I could've known about
the view from halfway down—

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

And now I want to watch bojack again

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My intrusive thoughts vs my procrastination

(Yes, I do go to therapy)

[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

(Yes, I do go to therapy)

Good for you, srsly. All the best for you, we're rooting for you!

[–] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

this comment section might be insane

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago (10 children)

My personal moral code is that we should only use communication to try to stop suicide, I think it's unethical to physically stop them.

I would only get them out of the situation once they tell me they changed their mind.

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[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is one of the reasons not to try it in a public place, especially a busy one

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

The Hippocratic oath is far too frequently interpreted as a mandate to unilaterally inflict life as broadly and indiscriminately as possible.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 18 points 2 days ago

Can't die, he still owes us taxes /s

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

This capital battery is not yet used up; it may not be ejected.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The anti theses of the Rammstein song "Spring" (jump) where a guy is on a bridge just to enjoy the view until other people come who mistaken it for a suicide attempt and encourage him to do so. This ends when someone decides to actively help him

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[–] ulterno@programming.dev 15 points 3 days ago

Poor guy just wanted to take a bath in the river.
But nobody gets to have fun in city waters.

Suicides no joke.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What is the root cause of suicide. I say finance..

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Depression, but a lot of time finance is the root cause of depression.

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[–] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I'm very worried about everyone here. Really, I know that there is a way out that isn't suicide--it's revolution--but it seems like you've all submitted to Capitalist Realism. I've thought about risking my life in an attempt to overthrow the state, but unlike you all, I am legitimately afraid of losing my life. It'd be such a sad note to end my life on. I wouldn't be there to see any surprising good things happen. I wouldn't get to see a socialist system established before me, and I wouldn't be able to do anything to help anyone. How come you all feel fine about death? There's nothing afterwards. There were the Viet Cong who couldn't live to see their country establish socialism, there were the Leninists who died fighting the Tsar who couldn't see the Soviet Union come to be, there were the slaves who died in Southern plantations who couldn't see Juneteenth. If you were really willing to die, you'd die in battle.

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