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[–] panathea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 264 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Free speech absolutism at work

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fascist speech absolutism at work

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 14 points 2 days ago

To Der Elon that's the same thing.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s frustrating that we knew he was full of shit when he was saying it. And now the evidence is showing it is bullshit. And it’s like it doesn’t even matter.

[–] Merva@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

They know they can do that sort of shit because they hold the power. They can blatantly and unconvincingly lie, their followers will regurgitate those lies, but neither of them really believe them. They are just posturing and having fun with words, just like fascists always have done.

Never believe that [fascists] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The [fascists] have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 118 points 1 day ago (48 children)

Nazi platform.

Make sure to stop clicking on Nazi links when people post them. No matter how bad you want to see someone "prank" someone or cry about their perceived persecution.

We need to stop making a Nazi platform important enough that it hurts democratic politicians when they lose access because of the Nazi in charge of said platform.

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[–] nadram@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No one on X should expect anything better

[–] Damage@feddit.it 22 points 2 days ago

If they're still on Xitter it means they approve of this

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago

Anyone still on Xitter is part of the problem.

Delete it.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems like a good opportunity to frame Musk and Erdogan as allies.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're saying it's not related to musk's political views?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No. How did you reach that conclusion?

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because framing is usually done in bad faith, when i read that i read 'they arent allies, the media wants you to think that'

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But Elon has no clue why everyone thinks he's a nazi

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The speech free platform continues to remove speech.

[–] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 8 points 1 day ago

You can speak freely about whatever suits elon :-)

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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Has Musk ever met a dictator he doesn't like?

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think elon called Lula a dictator...and called the UK a dictatorship. That makes it even more obvious what he's doing.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just do like I do. I blocked x.com quite a while back now. Along with several other trash sites like it.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago

I used to use it to find out information on local emergencies and stuff but now you have to log in and they don’t allow search or whatever so I never use it… I have a few accounts there but haven’t used them since at least x if not before I should probably mass delete my accounts there next time something happens

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Just a friendly gesture among right-wing autocrats.

[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago
[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Expecting Bluesky to do the same in a short while.

Why?

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

There needs to be some sort of unblockable self-hosted broadcast system where users can spin up their own cloud hosted instance by entering a username and password and choosing one of hundreds of providers for a small fee, or self hosted instance as quickly and easily as installing a single app on an android phone. These with act just like websites, but with a common protocol and API so they can communicate with each other and with clients with no specific add-on. Then, Turkey or whoever could block Turkish ISPs from fulfilling that request, but anyone else could still access the instance in their client as long as their own instance doesn't block it.

Hostable on a phone, a windows PC, Linux PC, self-hosted VM, cloud rented VM, whatever. And easily portable from one place to another.

Sure, uptime and reliability would suffer, EG when PC is turned off, but that's acceptable to gain resilience against ISP, central services like google and Facebook and twitter, and government interference.

I have designed a system to do this, using very reliable existing protocols and programming frameworks, I just don't have the time or money to invest to make it happen.

[–] helopigs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hah, I designed one as well!

I think the flow of information has to be fundamentally different.

In mine, people only receive data directly from people they know and trust in real life. This makes scaling easy, and makes it impossible for centralized entities to broadcast propaganda to everyone at once.

I described it at freetheinter.net if you're interested

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[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 days ago

I thought they didn't block political figures... Guess the muskrat just meant the figures he agrees with...

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 25 points 1 day ago

Free-speech absolutists gonna free-speech.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago

Reason # 3,487 to get off/stop paying attention to X, the 'everything app'.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago

One more reason to not put all of your social media eggs in the same basket.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 24 points 2 days ago (8 children)

He should go to Bluesky and get blocked there as well.

I was gonna say. Dude better go to the actual fediverse if he wants a reliable platform that wont be instantly taken down again.

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[–] EON_GuG@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Elon following Turkish censorship

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago

He was prisoned on corruption charges before, which were just government funds being moved

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