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not hating misled trump voters is actually a really good idea and more people need to try it

not saying that the actually insane ones arent worth hating, but some people are just maga bc everyone they know is

If they're genuinely apologetic and recognize they made a terrible choice, then yes... Welcome back to reality.

There is a path to redemption, and recognizing your past mistakes is part of that.

Instead of "if you're not with us, you're against us",

It's "as long as you're against them, you can be with us."

And frankly, that's what we need right now.

First past the post voting is fucking garbage but this is how you're supposed to engage it; it's NEVER EVER EVER EVER going to be good for supporting the lesser of two evils.

Instead, the best thing it can ever do is punish the greater evil

And these are VERY DIFFERENT GOALS.

If people were voting to punish the Trump campaign, Kamala would have won.

Notably, people very much voted to punish Kamala instead. Even the ones on the left. And boy did we show her -_- now we ALL get to suffer.

That's the right thing to do. Making it easy for people to accept that they were wrong makes it much easier to pull support from the opposing party. If you constantly ridicule, mock or insult them, they are much more likely to stick with their opinion simply because they do not want to accept that you were right.

A vast majority on lemmy should learn this aswell.

Too bad I don't know any that stop drinking the kool-aid (flavor aid), they still think that hurting liberals makes hurting conservatives worth it.

As much as it's fun to say fuck you I told you so, you catch more flies with honey. We need to make it easy to leave the cult and not make people double down just because they feel ashamed or feel like they have to defend something. The goal, while enticing, is not to rub people's nose in the shit they admittedly helped create. The goal should be to get rid of this motherfucker and reverse everything he's done.

Yall maybe forgiving but not i any and all Trump voters are traitors. Because you cannot stand there and listen to this man commit sedition

Say shit like "i have a concept of a plan"

And still slap knee "gosh darn it that is the man I must vote for president what a patriot!"

Fuck that. Cowards all of them. Every single one in gov. And every single voter.

Remember the women who slept with Nazis and after the war? That's Trump supporters.

It's never to late to do the right thing.

A University of Massachusetts-Amherst poll of 1,000 people from early April found that just 2% of Trump voters say they regret their choice and wish they had voted differently.

Jesus Christ...

Hey, so long as they're willing to put the ones who aren't apologetic against the wall

No we don't. MAGAts are fucking stupid. They knew what they voted for and got EXACTLY what they were told they were voting for.

That’s fantastic. This encourages taking personal responsibility over their action. I think it’s important to allow people to learn and grow, without the shame. Shame keeps people locked into their false beliefs. The more apologetics we have, the faster change will come. With that said, don’t forget these people. They still have fucked up beleifs.

I think there's a difference between someone who voted trump and realized they fucked up in a like deep , systemic, way, and someone who doesn't like this specific implemention of right wing stuff.

Like, if they regret trump but keep voting R, that's not good.

Seems to be a division here based on the (ex)Trumpanzee's sincerity vs not.

My thought is who gives a shit if they're sincere? The goal isn't to convert them, it's to defeat Trump and people like Trump - if a former Trump voter can be used against him, I have no issues at all with at least pretending to accept that that person is having an authentic denazification. Whether or not they're truly capable of self reflection is kinda moot

Shouldn't be turning people away that are apologetic, but don't think the path to victory lies there. All the people that are sitting out elections are the ones that should be targeted. So few of eligible voters are actually doing so.

Disagree if you want, but I've felt this way and have been saying some variation of this (but perhaps not as eloquently) pretty much since November of 2024.

Granted, in the immediate wake of the election, even I didn't think things would be this way, at least not so soon. As soon as he took office, anybody with half a brain cell could see, first-hand sans conjecture, just how much of a disaster we were in for. I was like, at this stage, we're going to have to root for the hamberders to do their thing and in the mean time we're going to have to turn the other cheek and accept those Trump voters who come to regret their vote. If there are enough of them, and they genuinely see an apology as a path out of the cult, there's a better chance of turning things around.

And when these trump voters vote for republicans again, democrats will blame the left. Again.

Appologetic is the key word. There needs to be accountability, not even for a sake of justice or anything, but just due to the fact that they need to have learned a lesson to be an ally of the cause, and not just an eventual traitor.

Yet another reason y’all really shouldn’t go doxxing and murdering working class voters: missing the Purple Wave.

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