"The president gets expanded powers during an emergency"
"The president gets to declare what is an emergency"
Thanks Supreme Court and Congress. Who could have ever guessed that this system would be abused by an authoritarian. 🤷♂️
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U.S. declares military zone around El Paso, allowing soldiers to arrest migrants
(www.texastribune.org)
... This is unironically what all the rightwing conspiricists have been afraid of for two+ decades now.
This is what they thought Clinton, or Obama or somehow the UN or 'ZOG' would be able to use as the mechanism to instate tyranny.
... And now they are doing it themselves, so utterly deluded that they would short cicruit if you tried to explain this to them.
I grew up in a right wing nutjob household. This is what I was told my whole life, growing up. I was indoctrinated into it, and had to deconvert myself out of it similar how I had to deconvert out of christian extremism.
These people are perfect hypocrites.
MAGA follows only a handful of rules, one most prominent is "it's only bad if you do it. If I do it then it's Morally Correct™©®."
My recently diagnosed PTSD, following finally being able to escape from and ghost my family of abusive nutters by moving many states away ... says yes, you are correct!
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Remember Jade Helm? They thought Obama was going to use military exercises to take control of Texas back in 2015 or so. Gov. Shitstain even made some comment lending credence to the theories. Now there’s a president using the military to control parts of Texas and they’re cool with it.
Yep.
Thats another prime example of them literally doing essentially exactly their paranoid fears.
Oh howabout FEMA death/concentration camps?
... Well, FEMA is probably fucking over, but the plan for migrants, suspected migrants, and the homeless.... literally is send them all to prison camps, and if we don't have enough capacity, build more pop up semi permanent structure camps on the outskirts of major cities.
They became lost, staring into the void, and now are the monsters they dreamed of.
The only thing they were afraid of is that someone who wasn’t on “their side” would beat them to it.
They were worried about those things because they knew what they would do if they had the power.
Selfish, emotionally immature, fearful idiots believe that everyone else is like them, and is just lying about not being so.
Therefore, all those 'other people' are devious liars who are more crafty then 'us', so 'we' must outscheme 'them!'
... all of this shit is literally scientifically verified.
The more conservative you are, the more likely your brain make up is to respond out of fear of potential loss, to shut out disconfirming informstion... as opposed to the potential gain of trying or exploring something new, that causes you to confront whether or not you may be wrong.
Every accusation is a confession for them. They've been telling on themselves for decades.
My aunt is a conspiracy nut and she was convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt Obama would declare martial law to stay in power longer. But now she would probably deny saying it. I wish she would at least be consistent in her lunacy but she takes no responsibility for anything she says
Years ago, I had a friend who was warning me that the National Guard was going to move to put everyone into FEMA camps at 10pm next Tuesday. I called her up, explained how it was a QAnon conspiracy theory that wasn't going to happen, talked her down, yet she was still like "well, it can't hurt to be careful next week".
I brought it up to her a few weeks later, in an attempt to get her away from her crazy QAnon-addicted Facebook friends, and she barely even remembered it.
Conspiracy theories are like movie trailers. They're designed to build your anticipation and get you buying in on opening night. Doesn't matter if the movie is a flop, so long as they got your money off the first weekend of hype.
Congress needs to pass a law requiring that any national emergency needs to be confirmed by a super majority of both the house and Senate within 15 calendar days of declaration. Or from 15 days of the passage of this law, whichever is later. An ongoing national emergency must be renewed by Congress before the sixth month of its declaration, but no earlier than it's fifth month. Then on a yearly basis starting from the anniversary of its declaration.
Failing that, all emergency powers the president wields are revoked.
In a true emergency, the assemblage of Congress is not an onerous task. Nor is the vote.
Lmao. There was a similar law requiring Congress to review the tariffs. You know what those spineless Republican asslickers in Congress did? They literally passed a law saying that, regarding tariffs, the entire rest of this year's legislative session is just one day long.
This is the opposite. The existing law has them vote to overturn it. As it stands, it remains an emergency until Congress says otherwise.
This law would automatically end it unless a supermajority says otherwise. Supermajority would hopefully prevent a single party from having enough control to do otherwise.
It says calendar days, so even if Congress considered all this a single day and refuse to vote, the emergency would expire anyway.
Didnt the house declare the remainder of their year 1 really long day so they couldnt be forced to vote on the tariffs as there already is a mechanism after 15 days for congress to say "yea thats not really an emergency"
Yep here is the Link
This would then default to not an emergency so avoiding a vote wouldn't do shit to help them.
The existing mechanism is that Congress can vote to say it's not an emergency. I'm saying they need to do the opposite. Say it actually is an emergency and by a supermajority so one party having control doesnt give them complete control.
Yeah, this one is on congress. They had it up for a vote, and it went 49-49. That was about tarrifs, but it was the same idea as limiting the "emergency"
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I’d love for any military officer involved with this to explain why this isn’t a flagrant violation of the Posse Comitatus Act
This is why "Command said the latest military zone will be part of the Fort Bliss Army base in El Paso."
Effectively what happened was the land was turned into a part of the base. At every US base there is a line usually shortly before the gate, sometimes only at the fence line where you are considered "on base". Once you are on base military police can arrest you since they have jurisdiction on base. Kinda like how if you commit a crime in an unincorporated area, the sheriff will arrest you, not city cops since that's their jurisdiction.
Frankly though this type of move is unprecedented, as far as I know. While the fed can just give fed land to bases, I've never heard of it happening like this. It's a loophole to keep it legal on paper but not in spirit.
Never forget this: Everyone participating and 'just following orders' is also responsible, from the highest bureaucrats and generals to the lowest public servants and soldiers. Couldn't have a death camp without everyone greenlighting and then Private John Doe following orders and building it.
Good fucking luck, USA. And may god have mercy on your souls.
Some of the lowest public servants could be opposing things below the radar. Malicious compliance, intentional incompetence, etc. There's a reason that (outdated) sabotage handbook keeps going around, and there's certainly a lot of leaks and obvious fuckups in this government that may or may not be accidental. See: the DOJ court filing with an internal memo saying "lol this case is doomed"
But all of the pilots flying the planes? The agents rounding up innocents without due process? The judges and prosecutors and spokespeople and soldiers following unconstitutional orders? Absolutely fucked.
There were those three jets that fell into the red sea or something like that. My hope is that they were intentionally sunk by the pilots 🤞
Buy guns. Help others buy guns. Train. Help others train.
Listen, if it makes you feel safer, by all means get your guns.
But this isn't some individualist enterprise. You're not Rambo. Owning a gun is not going to save you from the police, much less the military
Step 1) buy guns
Step 2) train and organize
Step 3) ???????
Step 4) peace and prosperity
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This the stupid kind of thinking that will lead you smack into a full blown dictatorship.
Trust me as a Cuban. USE YOUR FUCKING GUNS before all you have left is pots and pans and then tell me how that works out.
Wtf is the military gonna do? Kill 200+ million Americans fighting? Then america will be nothing.
If the military wants to target citizens then its full out war.
America bows to no king or tyrants per our constitution.
Buy your guns people dont be a coward its your constitutional right. Don't be a coward and be like oh no tanks and military.
See I have a problem with cuban Americans saying they never want to live under a dictator again and then coming here and voting for a dictator and the party that wants absolute control of everything we do
Yep Miami is full of those ignorant ass Cubans. Same with Venezuelans left their shit and voted for Trump.
Trust me as a Cuban.
Cuban from Havana or Cuban from Florida?
Wtf is the military gonna do? Kill 200+ million Americans fighting?
Glances at Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Palestine
America bows to no king or tyrants per our constitution.
As someone who has spent my entire life in this country, I regret to inform you that there are few things Americans love more than the taste of boot. We pledge to the flag. We bow to the church. We grovel at the feet of the boss.
This country is flush with tyrants who parade about promising new kinds of liberty. And behind each one is a train of courtiers and sycophants and cronies and thugs, the first group singing their praises and the second stomping on the necks of anyone bold enough to heckle or jeer.
Buy your guns people dont be a coward its your constitutional right.
Buy your guns, sure. But who do you point them at? When the boss lays you off, the bank freezes your account, the grocery store locks its shelves, and the sheriff posts an eviction notice on your front door, who do you shoot? This isn't a war you can win with bullets. You're fighting a comprehensive economic system.
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That's where the "help others buy guns" and "help others train" comes in. The approach to this on the right vs the left is very different.
Check every resistance group story world wide.
- never surrender your gun or get one
- if they start bombing you use tunnels
- it is better to die fighting, than having a slow death by a system that exploit you to make the rich richer.
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US service members participating in these actions are enemies of the state IMO. I would like to see them treated as such.
Finally, we can end "thank you for your service " and get back to calling them baby killers. Ah yes, the time before 9-11.
Bullshit. You need to go farther back than that.
Baby killers are what fucktards called the barely-not-children who were drafted against their will to fight and die in Vietnam.
People really appreciated the troops who fought in the first Gulf Wars and helped our ally Kuwait after they were invaded. In 1990.
I mean that's where it originated, for sure, it just stopped being used after 9-11.
How is that different from martial law?
This is troubling in several ways. If it is allowed to continue then I foresee "military zones" on college campuses and many other places.
The loophole that seems to be being exploited is that they're allowed to redefine existing federal lands as military bases thus side stepping posse comitatis act. I don't think they can just declare any land (E.G. state owned or privately owned land) part of a military base and there's likely knock on effects from that as well. For instance I'd be surprised if there aren't various laws about who and how you're allowed to access "military bases" and therefore they can't just slap one in the middle of a campus at least not without opening a giant can of worms.
Eminent Domain
Americans heard "liberty or death" and said "death please!"
If only. If I knew an ICE employee I would consider it my personal duty to make their lives living hell.
Step by step by little step.
Not even little steps.
This is happening much faster than I anticipated.
Arm yourselves.
Not even halfway through year one, they have been planning for a long time.
Arm yourselves and practice
Still waiting for that goose step though.
Okay I get that fascists are all the same but can these guys stop being so predictable?
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