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[–] ouch@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Cool. Now let me legally record my phone calls without rooting my phone.

[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 37 points 2 days ago (26 children)

Built-in to GrapheneOS for a while now.

[–] seekpie@lemmy.seekpie.nohost.me 11 points 2 days ago

CalyxOS also has it (though they block it where it's illegal).

[–] ouch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Two problems:

  1. No automatic call recording.
  2. Banking apps don't work on GrapheneOS thanks to Play Integrity APIs, so you probably need to root to get them to work.

If you need to root anyway, might as well use BCR.

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[–] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There is an app called CubeACR which does exactly that on unrooted devices.

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[–] AlexCory21@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

For users with a Samsung Flagship phone, if you have the "One UI 7" update, they just recently added this feature.

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[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] DemandtheOxfordComma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And one UI 6.0 and one UI 5.0. My Samsung phones have done this for as long as I can remember

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[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A beta build of Android 16 contains an early version of Google’s new Android Desktop Mode that, in the future, could let users simply plug their smartphone into a monitor and use it like a laptop or desktop computer.

!savedyouaclick@lemmy.world

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago

It seems this is an instance where the headline tells the full story

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Now the question is if people will be stupid enough to replace all the freedoms their desktop OS still gives them with the vendor controlled shit show that is mobile OS.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

Narrator: They did.

[–] TerHu@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i‘m hyped for a graphene desktop mode. that wouldn’t be a replacement for my laptop/ desktop computers but still very much sick. and if i can run a terminal with neovim and tmux or ssh into other machines it would be a dope backup/ micro setup. probably not very useful, but fun i think

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[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

100% they will and want this. I’m a power user and even I see this as the future.

Have you worked in a non-tech field with people? Modern OSs and office apps are not intuitive to them. Hell, a lot have problems with just their phones as is.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I suppose you mean the same effect I have noticed with our younger apprentices who know very little about the way computers work anymore since they grew up with phones only, they don't even know what a file system is any more.

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[–] Trihilis@ani.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah.. I dont see this happening. Android has 99% shovelware crap. I dont see how any professional would be able to use Android instead of Windows, MacOS or Linux.

Android is garbage, and I'm saying this as an android user... The moment a serious Linux alternative is here for phones I'm gone (yes I'm aware Android is technically also "Linux").

Just a few examples: the file system is a mess, good luck trying to easily save on network drives. There is no decent office suite and again using the files system to save documents in Android is a shitshow. There are Adobe products but they're all watered down shitty versions of the desktop ones, the alternatives are even worse. Around every corner google tries to push it's shitty cloud subscriptions, the telemetry is insane even compared to windows.

No Android is definitely not the future chromebooks were a mess too. And knowing Google they'll just give up on anything they don't seem profitable enough so even if they tried on desktop they'll just pull the plug after 2 years.

If people complain about Linux being hard... give android a try as desktop OS it's probably 10x worse. At least Linux comes with a decent office suite and decent networking capabilities.

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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I swear they've been writing the same article for a year.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago

Much longer than that. But that's probably because Google keeps picking it up and then dropping it again.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I used to think the idea of a phone that is also my desktop would be really cool. But then I got to thinking just how locked down iOS and to a lesser extent Android are compared to Linux/Windows/MacOS, and decided I wouldn't use my Pixel as a replacement for my desktop or laptop even if the feature was there.

[–] wolf@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To the best of my knowledge they give you a full Debian Linux in a container. Combine this with AOSP, and IMHO this is totally cool. Especially since my Netbook has worse specs than my current smartphone! :-)

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[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On a serious note, what can't you do with your Pixel? The only issues I've had is I can't access networking functions. Beyond that, not much limits in most things I do. And with Android 16 allowing for installing Linux apps (not just terminal ones, but full graphical ones like VS Code, Blender 3D, etc), there is little I can't see it not being able to do. (No Wireshark though, but that's networking, the only painful point for me).

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

TLDR: I don't like the philosophy behind how Android and iOS devices are created and managed by their OEMs nearly enough to give them near total control over what I can do today or in the future with my primary computing platforms.

Its not a specific thing I can't do that I want to do that stops me from liking it.

Its that it is a specific OS image bound to a specific hardware model that is very limited in what options or upgrades or changes are available to me.

With a Framework laptop (or most other generic models) or a generic ATX desktop tower I can replace whatever internal component if need be and then put whatever base OS on it, just because I want to do that.

With a Pixel, or Galaxy, or iPhone it runs the OS it came with and is blessed by the OEM on the hardware they compiled it to run on. Unless I am willing to accept large inconveniences in functionality and usability.

If I replace my desktop/laptop with a Pixel running Debian for desktop mode, now Google has vastly more control over what my desktop experience is going to be via their control of the hardware and host OS layer than they do today. If they decide they don't want something being done in that Debian container in the future for some reason, then they can stop me from doing it with little recourse for me as a user.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Cool. Samsung did this a decade ago though.

Everyone is abandoning Android with a passion thanks to Google's bullshit.

[–] lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[–] ITeeTechMonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Motorola Atrix 4G had a Desktop Mode (Webtop was its name and it was Ubuntu based) in 2011 before Samsung. They even released a cradle dock, that you could connect to a tv or monitor, and a laptop dock for it and the source code on Sourceforge (my guess is to be GPL compliant).

I got that phone specifically for the desktop mode. It had a full blown Firefox browser installed and you could run your apps along side it.

I was blown away and thought, "This is the future for computers" but I was incredibly wrong. After the short honeymoon period i found it to be sluggish and clunky when using an android app. The hardware although phenomenal for a phone couldn't provide an optimal experience for a desktop.

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[–] vegetvs@kbin.earth 5 points 2 days ago

Everyone is abandoning Android

What do you mean?

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dex was kind of nifty if you had a monitor laying around. I'm guessing this is the non-Samsung version feature.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You mean they're going to turn Androids into Chromebooks.

Honestly, it sounds horrible, but for people who don't have a PC, I guess it could be a benefit.

[–] pulido@lemmings.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's great. We need to consider how many people live in 3rd world countries that only have access to Android phones.

If they can hook up a keyboard, mouse, and a monitor to those phones then it empowers these people to have more opportunities to compete and contribute to the digital space.

Giving them access to the tools of developers could be a godsend.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

No, I'm not arguing that it's horrible from any other viewpoint than my own. And I'm super privileged enough to be able to both afford and have access to better options.

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[–] thfi@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago

Microsoft tried the same idea about 10 years ago with Continuum, even including a hardware dongle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Continuum https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/continuum-phone

Canonical had something similar, too, back in the days with their Ubuntu Touch and named it Convergence: https://www.linux.com/news/first-ubuntu-touch-tablet-brings-convergence-last/

[–] HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's cool and everything, yet we have an itsy-bitsy tiny problem: iirc, there are like 3.5 vendors that have opted into dp alt mode support, and each one I know of kinda sucks. I suppose it might be possible to simply enable it in software by changing the devicetree on usb3 devices or something if the port the vendor decided to route is the one multiplexed with dp, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fairphones support it :) I actually tested this out earlier (the initial screen mirroring implementation that was added in android 15) and it worked well. USB hub functionality works too with mouse and keyboard being plugged into the screen.

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[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Didn’t canonical try this years ago?

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[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ability to recognize non-ASCII characters in the dialer? Nope... Ability to skip auto connect to the Bluetooth device? Nope, never again... Record phone calls? No, fuck you, we don't like it in US so it is banned to the whole world. Here you are a feature nobody asks for and shut up...

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[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This paired with virtualization features (hopefully with working sommelier) potentially enable running desktop wayland apps on phone.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago
[–] pelya@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

If you want deskktop version of Firefox or Chromium on your phone, you can get them using Termux. But yeah they will be slow.

Hopefully this means I can have a GraphineOS laptop (whenever google makes a new Pixel Laptop)

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sweet that it's all of android now. I've had it on my note 20 ultra for the past 5 years.

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[–] pulido@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if this starts a trend of ultra-cheap "laptops" that are just hardware extensions for phones with no processing capabilities of their own.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Lapdock" seems to be the popular term. They've been around more than 10 years but never gone mainstream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapdock

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