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Sens. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., who voiced support for the measure, were absent for the vote. It needed a simple majority to pass.
Rotating. Villains. And the "same, logical" voices want to block/report our voices here because we vote/advocate third parties.
Because how voting currently works in the US no third party candidate would/has get close to winning.
Worse, third-party candidates are actively counterproductive. Here is the classic short video explaining how first-past-the-post voting systems inevitably lead to a two-party state.
We all know about the evils of first past the post here, but voting blue doesn't. Fucking. Work.
Didn't say it did work. I'm not presenting a solution here, I'm not the messiah.
For a problem like what the US currently has, IMO they're kind of past the point where voting alone is going to solve it. They needed to change their voting system before an authoritarian despot took control. Hopefully they'll remember this when trying to piece some sort of new government back together once he's gone.
So they needed to fix it in the 1700s? The US has always been an authoritarian shit hole that replaced divine right with capital right. The whiskey rebellion is proof none of the founding fathers gave a singular shit about democracy or freedom.
The earlier the better I suppose. Americans kind of trapped themselves by turning their constitution into a holy book, though.
The literal living deification of Washington guaranteed that would happen, though, so its not exactly surprising they developed a sacred text along side their new god.
The whiskey rebellion is proof none of the founding fathers gave a singular shit about democracy or freedom.
The greatest lie that the working class has been fed is that its rulers care about them.
Nah. Freedom and democracy has always been for wealthy white males. They literally see themselves as human and everyone else as animals.
The thing that works the least is shitting in the pool, which is what voting third party is.
Voting alone was never going to work. Organize then we can talk about whether voting third party makes sense or not.
Voting period was never going to work in this system. And worse, voting third party is explicitly harmful to any chance of progress so fuck that
Question, here in Canada we also have an awful FPTP system from the top down, yet, we're a multi party system.
Sure, Liberals and conservatives dominate the Parliament but the Bloc and NDP keep them in check. Hell, even the the few little Green seats can make or break a vote sometimes.
How come these never happen in the US? You had and currently have independent candidates in the senate.
How come more independents or minor party members don't get voted in? Maybe in the form of someone whose popular locally and well know by the community.
The political history of Canada is just flipping back and forth between the Liberal Party and Conservative party (with the name of the Conservative party switching now and then). I consider it very weakly "multi-party," IMO the third parties act as spoilers more often than they act as a "check" on government. The main thing that's keeping third parties around is that minority governments aren't completely ineffectual. I'd rather see coalition governments like those common in Europe, though.
In my opinion, New Zealand has the best system. Proportional representation and ranked choice voting.
(Because blue no matter who folks keep screaming lies)
A rep from a Alaska introduced a bill that would attempt to make ranked choice voting illegal 🫠 just open tyranny
ms palin lost due to rank choiced voting.
I swear, most democrats are plants put there to 'go rogue' whenever there's a slight chance of something beneficial to the working class passing.
I don't know if most of them are plants, but enough of them are. I noticed that during Obama's terms. Nothing ever got done because there was always some D stopping shit. There were some usual suspects, probably the lowest bidders who didn't plan on staying in office anyway.
Too many centrist neo liberals. Democrats and Republicans are pro corporation and billionaire, us working schmucks need to find a way to get a party working for us.
I first read this as plants, of the green leafy variety. Somehow I also think that is apropos of how little the Democratic caucus does. Congressional shrubs, who just sit there looking pretty.
How were they absent for the vote? They better have a good reason.
no we dislike you because you helped elect trump and that was clearly your intent.
Useless.
Buy the ticket, take the ride!
Wish HST was here for the commentary.
Pretty sure he would look at today's world and go, "I made the right choice"
Even if it passed, that's not going to stop Trump from doing what he wants.
He has veto power even if it had passed 51-49
And down we go.
Running out of excuses to use when this is over...
Ehh, good. The more Americans are bailed out, the less they suffer the consequences of their actions.
May the complacency of the left and the idiocy of the right reap their fullest rewards.
the complacency of the left
I have to assume you're using "left" in that peculiar American sense in which it means "center right". The actual left are not complacent, but they're unrepresented.
when i start talking politics with people, i regularly have to preface the conversation with "i am an extreme outlier that is very far left" because i get very weird looks for saying things like, "all people should be able to eat."
its a weird state of being trying to defend something kind.
Preaching kindness is a dangerous business. Be careful out there.
Yes, he's referring to neo-liberals.
Neo-liberals always align with conservatives when their wealth is threatened.
The actual left is very much also complacent. Mango man's goons just robbed an innocent family (of citizens, though I shouldn't need to specify that) blind and where's the action? Where's the outrage? Where are the goddamn strikes?
Where are the goddamn strikes?
I think that's lack of organization, given how difficult companies have made it for workers to unionize, rather than lack of will. Also lack of numbers, given how many workers have become Trumpists or consider unions to be evil communism.
Yeah so the actual left should be doing something about that right the fuck now. Anything else is complacency.
i cast itchy lower back upon you
Agreed. I welcome all the suffering that is about to befall consumerists.
They only have themselves to blame, and their incessant greed.