No surprise there - Republicans have hated Wikipedia pretty much from the start, since they require valid attribution and constantly fact check, which means the Republicans can't spin their lies.
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US attorney for DC accuses Wikipedia of ‘propaganda’, threatens non-profit status
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Fortunately whatever happens, wiki is downloaded all over the world. If they try to “regulate” or shut it down, it will just pop up abroad.
You cannot suppress open source info.
The tricky bit is that Wikipedia is a "living" document, constantly being updated and refined by a huge community of dedicated editors, and you can't download the community and pop up a new one overnight. AI isn't that good yet.
Then you just move the domain to one of their many subsidiaries abroad. The Community will be smart enough to access another Wikipedia tld
Assuming that there's just one single new site that pops up that everyone agrees to go to en masse, and that it has enough resources to handle the load, and that its administration is aligned with the same goals as the original.
It could happen, but it's by no means as simple and easy as cloning a repository.
They’d still use the top level domain, just change the physical server location and point there. Canada, maybe.
You're still making the assumption that "they" are the same people. That's the point here, Wikipedia-the-organization is being threatened.
And you’re missing the larger point:
Paranoia is bad. If you jump at every “they could do…” you’re going to be unable to jump at the “they fucking are doing”.
You want something to freak out about? They’re arresting judges for managing their courtroom.
Yeah, threatening to yeet wiki’s nonprofit status is bad. But its a very far cry from offing the board or whoever is leading Wikipedia and installing their own.
This rampant paranoia is not helping the 2yo that got deported.
They can move the website out of the government’s reach, in response to any action they might take. Worrying about any other possibility is just jumping at shadows.
Where do I say anything about "offing" the board? That's rather a leap. I'm talking about the US government attacking the corporate structure of Wikipedia, which isn't paranoia because this article is literally about exactly that.
Where do I say anything about "offing" the board? That's rather a leap.
You're still making the assumption that "they" are the same people. That's the point here, *Wikipedia-the-organization* is being threatened.
The only way to do that without us knowing is to disappear them. Any other scenario, they would be free to tell us “hey, they stole the entire organization!”, right?
I doubt very much that Wikipedia’s lawyers are t prepping a response even as we speak,
I'm talking about the US government attacking the corporate structure of Wikipedia, which isn't paranoia because this article is literally about exactly that
No. The article is talking about threats to remove its 501c non profit status.
Such an action would not remove the board or really alter the operational structure
They would be subject to taxes, and some implications with any grants they might receive, while donations to wiki will no longer be tax deductible, and such.
It would be a burden, yes. But there’s exactly zero reason to believe that suddenly Wikipedia would not be Wikipedia.
Neither would there be anything to stop them from moving.
Problem with that is the domain is registered in the US. And the FBI has a history of claiming domains whose content the US government wants offline.
What are you talking about?
You can just change to a registrar that is out of the country. Like. Really. Not that hard. This is a normal thing people do.
Is this a normal thing that normal people do when their fascist government is looking to have them bagged off the street and dropped at an offshore blacksite?
We no longer live in a normal world. Nothing can be assumed anymore. The Wikimedia foundation is in real danger.
Then move the foundation to the EU and tell him to pound sand
Any source of factual information to the public is a threat to an authoritarian regime
Alright
Show me the exact article that is propaganda, and why
Obviously you'll have to add citations on your end to show why exactly it would be propaganda and oh yeah,there is the issue
Wikipedia isn't bad because it's propaganda, Wikipedia is bad because it's not propaganda
Why do that when they can lie through their teeth to just get it shut down altogether?
Remember: "'Meet me in the middle,' says the unjust man. You take a step forward, he takes a step back. 'Meet me in the middle,' says the unjust man."
There is no arguing sense and logic with these people. Their goal is to make you suffer. Nothing else.
You haven't got a clue.
https://en.ejo.ch/public-relations/manipulation-wikipedia
https://www.wikipediasucks.co/forum/
I found a thread with 10 reasons not to trust Wikipedia. One of the reasons listed is citogenesis. Under that they write 3 paragraphs in which they first say most people don't know what citogensis is. In the remainder of the 3 paragraphs they never explain what it is. I cant tell if that is a parody site or not.
Hopefully sites like Wikipedia and Internet Archive already have backup sites not located in the US.
You can download the entire thing. Anyone can. I have a copy from earlier this year.
Use Kiwix if you want to use it offline.
How big of a hard drive do you need to download the entire wiki site?
There are several options, like with pictures or not. I think the complete archive is about 110 GB, but see for yourself.
That's just a thumb drive now. Worth it to preserve knowledge. I know what I'm doing later.
unzipping?
So use 2TB external or NAS to unpack. Preserve it first before these shitheads blow it up.
Taking a shit on next door's lawn.
would it be better to find a torrent so I can share to others who need it?
Some of the contentions in Martin’s letter echoed a report published in March by the Anti-Defamation League, a leading Jewish civil rights organisation, alleging “widespread anti-semitic and anti-Israel bias on Wikipedia”.
What a fucking surprise 🙄 Facts are antisemitic now.
Anti-Israel, anti-fascist, anti-apartheid, pro-Palestine != anti-semitic.
The ADL can go fuck themselves for propagating otherwise.
Fascist pig
They should just reincorporate elsewhere.
AFAIK other language Wikipedias already are incorporated "elsewhere" (the world¹).
¹ there actually is one outside the US
I donate to them about once a year, but this is a good excuse to donate again.
Go ahead, may they move somewhere else as fast as possible. As soon as we remove useful services from their grasp the better.
Facts and truth are now propaganda....smells like FASCISM.
And of course, this is all about people pushing zionist land theft. If they arent busy beating students, buying politicians, and threatening universities, they are trying to literally rewrite history and limit everyones access to information they dont agree with. And they somehow think there will never be any blowback for any of this behavior. They really do literally think we are all sheep.
Blowback really? Any day now right?
Americans are the most pacified if not apathic bunch of harmless sheep.
All talk all the time about their freedoms and how they 'the people' will stand up for it or some more cringe BS.
And they do shit.
A bunch of pathetic slaves resigning in their fate.
They can vent their little frustrations online in bold 'revolutionary' statements, change their avatar to something and maybe not shop at this one store for one day. They are on the barricades!
Oh and there' was this guy on here recently proudly announcing he is going to put up stickers.
None of what happens there now or before, under whatever president could happen in Europe or anywhere else.
There would be blood on the streets.
Wikipedia is indeed propaganda.
It can and is being manipulated, this has been proven plenty times.
And people often link to it as their source.
It has zero credibility.
It's good for looking up flowers, food or whatever.
Anything remotely political is tainted.