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Such a weird article from Nintendo Life trying to defend the Switch 2 over the Steam Deck. And it's so cringe.

First let's talk about the contention that the Switch 2 has better value because it's comes with a dock.

Look, I can hook my Steam Deck up to my TV using a USB-C to HDMI adapter and use the Steam Deck itself as a controller. As for a dock itself, sure the official Steam Deck Docking Station costs C$109. However, I can buy a 3rd party docking station off Amazon for C$40. So that's not much of an argument.

The Switch 2 has a bigger screen that runs at 1080P. That great. But the Steam Deck has an OLED panel which the Switch 2 does not.

In terms of performance, the Switch 2 probably has a better GPU. However, it lacks the Steam Deck's CPU power. And it only has 12GB of RAM compared to the Steam Deck's 16GB of RAM. Will games look better on Switch 2? Only if CPU and RAM don't serve as bottlenecks.

The next thing: Switch 2 is supposedly better because a joy-con can act as a mouse. But they're really grasping at straws here because I can use an actual Bluetooth mouse with the Steam Deck—one which is more ergonomic too. Oh, and unlike the Switch 2, I can also use a Bluetooth keyboard too with a Steam Deck.

Apparently, the Steam Deck's touchpad so "too awkward" compared to the Switch 2's mouse. But you don't use a mouse in handheld mode—no one does. Touchpads, on the other hand, do work in handheld mode. And I find them much more suitable for FPS and RTS games than an analog joystick.

Now for the article's final point: the Steam Deck can't play Switch 2 games. This is actually the most legitimate point. However, it cuts both ways too. Switch 2 can't play decades of PC games, all which are accessible on Steam Deck. And I should know because I'm able to run literally thousands of games on my Steam Deck—many which don't even run on Windows anymore without lots of modding.

Can Switch 2 play F.E.A.R. without needing to jailbreak and emulate it? Nope—so in terms of game library, Steam Deck has the win.

But ultimately, this is a silly comparison because the Steam Deck is already three years old at the moment. Of course the Switch 2 will be able to do some things better than Steam Deck. It should—it's the newer piece of hardware.

However, when the Steam Deck 2 comes out—probably next year—how will the Switch 2 compare? I don't know, but it will likely have all the advantages that the Steam Deck still has but with giant generational leap in terms of performance.

Right now, if I wanted to, I could get a Lenovo Legion Go S. And it would be leagues better than a Switch 2. It has a AMD Ryzen Z2 Go APU, 32GB of RAM, and 1 TB of storage—which absolutely wrecks the Switch 2 in terms of raw performance.

But the reason I'm holding off is because I think the Steam Deck 2 will be even better.

This doesn't even touch about many points that makes the Steam Deck just plain better. The games are cheaper. You don't have to pay for online multiplayer. You have access to multiple storefronts like GOG or itch.io. You can use it as a PC in desktop mode. I can go on.

Now do I think the Switch 2 is totally lacking in value? No. If I had a young child, I'd probably get them a Switch 2 simply because it's more kid friendly.

However, I'm a full grown man. As for my kid? She's turning 12-years-old in a few weeks so I think she'll do just fine with a Steam Deck.

https://www.nintendolife.com/features/opinion-steam-deck-fans-are-seriously-underestimating-the-switch-2

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nintendo life is just being a bit insecure due to constantly hearing about it being a deck measuring contest.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They want a review unit / codes from Nintendo

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They can play by play all the they want but at the end of the day. I can play games I brought back in 1997 on my steam deck they can barely handle going back one generation to the switch and have to use emulation and a subscription service for a handful of their older systems.

I went from CD of star fleet academy i had in a storage box to a SD card to the steam deck. Installed and running the longest part was setting the key binds in steam input.

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[–] miguel@fedia.io 39 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You very politely missed the #1 point... I can already play every single nintendo game I've ever bought on my steamdeck. Right now. With no subscription, just simply uploading from my GBA/DS/3DS/Switch to my Steamdeck... Nintendo for reasons completely lost to me refuses to allow that. Like, wth are they even doing over there to not have solved that issue day 1 on the switch.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nintendo for reasons completely lost to me refuses to allow that.

Because consoles are a net loss in terms of R&D, production, shipping, warranty claims for when they almost always fucked something on the first or second version, etc etc etc. Locking people into the platform means you make all your money on game sales, even 3rd party, indie, and asset flip shovelware makes Nintendo money. It's the "Walled Garden" method, Apple is shit hot at this. They make an everloving fuck tonne of money from their app store. Even free apps have to pay to have the app hosted on the store servers, and in app purchases are subject to a percentage cut for Apple.

The fact that having digital backups of games/music/media you have purchased is perfectly legal in more than a couple countries, as is emulating, is a thorn in these sociopathic cancers of megacorpic greed's paw. That's why Ubisoft is pushing for widespread legal acknowledgement of "game purchases are actually just paying to be granted a revokable for any reason or no reason at all licence." That's (partly) why Nintendo is so very aggressive in their litigation of anyone who attempts to make a highly functioning emulator for one of their systems, often with games running better with higher resolution and more options for QoL things. Because instead of trying to sell to as many different systems as possible, they want literally all the money, and they refuse the idea that the little money sacks who buy their shit might actually be legally allowed to run back up copies of their purchases on hardware that wasn't sold by them. Refuse the idea that the money sacks have rights or deserve to pay for something and actually own it.

You will own nothing, and you will be happy.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You will own nothing, and you will be happy.

I can imagine a dystopian future, where only few hardcopies/offline copies of literature survive. All art/media is only available on the cloud, which is constantly changed as per the agenda of the day. All communication has to go through the cloud for authenticated. The police state is constantly scanning people if they have any sort of external storage device. USB ports are banned from being manufactured. Radio is banned. Few people, the rebels, hoard the last bit of art and music in the form of LPs/cassettes,/canvas but it's shared among people like contraband.

This can be an awesome movie :P

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can you play online with your friends?

[–] miguel@fedia.io 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It varies from game to game, as you'd expect. I can play pokemon multi-player without requiring a link cable, for example, but I can't speak to other games I haven't played much (like smash brothers or mariokart). If you mean games in general on the steamdeck, I find gog games and randos like Doom and Diablo multiplayer works just fine.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The trade-off of losing online features when emulating Nintendo games has never really felt that bad mostly because Nintendo's online capabilities have always been total ass.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Nintendo's online capabilities have always been total ass.

I hope this sentiment changes with Mario Kart World... I mean, I wouldn't still pay for NSO anyway, but they should really focus in improving this.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 25 points 3 days ago (5 children)

When is the video game community going to understand there’s no such thing as “better”. The whole “this vs that” or “us vs them” just needs to stop.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 18 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Yes, we all know handhelds peaked with the DS (I am totally biased).

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Biased, but absolutely right.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago
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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Valve is definitely a more ethical company but all the console crusading also gets tiresome

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

I mean, I also never take a gaming article seriously if it has the word "obliterate" in it.

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[–] missingno@fedia.io 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Both systems have pros and cons. This article isn't bashing on the Steam Deck at all, just making the case for what the Switch 2 has going for it.

They say up front that this article is a response to the frankly obnoxious amount of "my gaming platform can beat up your gaming platform" circlejerking that has been going around - which you're kinda perpetuating.

The Deck does not "obliterate" the Switch 2, and a headline like that makes you part of the problem.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

The Deck does not "obliterate" the Switch 2

For me it does. But I know that's not objective fact. Just my subjective opinion.

The truth is, if what you want is "newest Nintendo games", well, the Switch 2 is amazing.

I adjusted my mindset on games years ago. There are lots of games that I'd love to play, but because they aren't on PC, I don't play them. Because I already have more games than I could ever play. Hype and FOMO are powerful drugs, ones that I'm not immune to. But I am at least resistant to them.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

I dislike a lot of things about the Switch 2, but one thing I give them is that now it has arguments to win in several fields to the Deck (which it should be fucking given lol) and I thought Steam Deck users would be a bit less loud... But I think I was wrong... Regardless I eagerly hope for a Steam Deck 2, and hopefully I'll be able to get it officially in Mexico ffs.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I don’t think these systems are comparable. They serve different markets.

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[–] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The main draw of Switch 2 is Nintendo software. That’s about the end of the discussion for me that makes me need one. Nintendo has always made my favorite games since I started playing in 1988. They still make many of my favorite games today.

I was mad at the pricing at first but then I put it in perspective. I really only buy 3-4 retail games per year on the Switch, and at $10-20 more each, that’s $30-80 more per year at most. Not a happy thing but it is what it is. That’s literally one night out with friends having drinks and food.

Still going to love my Steam Deck and still going to play plenty of games on it too… likely more than Switch 2 because of Steam deals and the fact that I trust Valve more with my digital library than Nintendo honestly. They’ve never let me down whereas Nintendo has.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 13 points 3 days ago

But it's impossible for a human on the internet to like more than 1 thing at a time!

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[–] ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (10 children)

You know what has been great? Being on a vacation and bringing my steam deck and playing tears of the kingdom off of it with better performance than the original switch had. I paid for it and ripped it myself because I still believed it was the right thing to do, but with Nintendo's increased focus year after year against emulation enthusiasts like we're fucking criminals, I'm gonna give them something to bitch about. I'm never paying another dime to Nintendo for as long as I live, and that is coming from someone who grew up with a super Nintendo and an N64. Fuck yourself Nintendo. Yo ho and a bottle of get fucked.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Hey, hey? Hey.

Two things can be good at the same time.

Stop it.

Unless you're ten and in a backyard and you can't get the other thing because you haven't mowed enough lawns or whatever and your frontal lobe is too squishy to cope with the FOMO.

But if you're "a grown man"? Stop it.

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[–] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The switch and switch 2 are better than all handheld PCs at present for one simple reason: it's much simpler to obtain and use for the average consumer. That's it. Average consumers don't give a shit about teraflops and fps as long as it's easy to use and still looks good.

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[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I would assume a publication like "Nintendo Life" will promote Nintendo irrespective of what the issue is.

And to my limited understanding, the people who buy/use Nintendo are either children (you are not going to tell them they have shit taste) or hardcore fanboys who on some level will defend any action by Nintendo no matter what.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm neither and have a Switch. There's just some games i want to play on it.

Won't be getting a switch 2 though. That ship sailed considering how easy it is to emulate the first console.

[–] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

And I bet one of the reason Nintendo went after the Switch Emus when they did is cause the Switch 2 is just an upgraded Switch 1. So Emulation base is already done.

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[–] said@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago

Switch 2 can't play decades of PC games, all which are accessible on Switch.

I think you meant "which are accessible on Steam Deck"

[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 days ago

The bigger trend is that enshitification of consoles have made steam a juggernaut.

$80 a game is a non starter for most people. Switch was a golden goose that revolutionized mobile handheld gaming. It was like a gameboy reboot. I doubt Switch 2 gets even close to half of the success

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like all these "Switch 2 is bad" articles are missing the point. I'm not gonna buy Switch 2 for its superior hardware. If I buy it, I'll buy it for the next generation of Mario Kart, Zelda and Pokémon. You won't get that on a Steam deck. I probably won't, dough.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

You certainly will get all that on a Steam Deck, if you give it a little time.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Steam Deck's touchpad so "too awkward"...

The Steam Deck touchpads are literally the ONLY modern touchpads I like. Every other mother touchpad is absolutely atrocious because they don't give you anything like a vibration to tell you your mouse is moving and you actually get some level of confirmation you clicked. It feels like every other touchpad out there now, I swear, requires you to attempt to click on the left/right mouse button (completely integrated into the touchpad) about a billion times before it registers that you clicked once.

Also, if the joycons for switch 2 are anywhere near as uncomfortable to hold for extended periods of time like they are for me with regular switch, I guarantee my hand would start hurting after a couple minutes of the, probably gonna be as responsive as a dead man to a cannonball to the face, mouse mode. The premise of turning what could be one of the worst controller designs I've ever seen into a mouse makes my hands bleed in pain without having to ever hold one.

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my steam deck can play switch and nintendo games and steam games checkmate

[–] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Steam Deck is a much better product from a value standpoint, a console will never be able to compare to a PC. So it's kind of pointless to compare them in this regard.

The only reason, personally, to buy a Switch is for the joy-con games, like games to play with friends and family. Like you would with the Wii ( checks notes, almost 19 years ago...). For an actual handheld gaming device, obviously the Deck is the better choice.

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[–] yuri@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago

i’m blown away that the switch 2 is so beefy. nintendo has been the “lower spec consoles but AMAZING first party games” company for as long as i can remember.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Their words:

Those same Joy-Con can also be used for super-accurate, independent motion control, opening up far more possibilities than the Deck’s simple gyro. And in games like Metroid Prime 4: Beyond and Civilization VII, plonking them down on a surface (or thigh!) turns each of them into a fully-functioning computer mouse, far less awkward and clunky than the Deck’s integrated touchpad.

The versatility, modularity, and ease-of-use of the Joy-Con is something that we’ve come to take for granted, but it’s really hard to beat. When they're not drifting.

You:

The next thing: Switch 2 is supposedly better because a joy-con can act as a mouse.

If that was your whole takeaway from that paragraph, I don't think you'll ever see the appeal. Different strokes and all that.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m holding off is because I think the Switch 2 will be even better.

You meant steam deck I think?

[–] atomicpoet@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Thanks for catching that. Edited.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Not need to argue, they have entirety difference audiences and that’s ok.

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