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[–] daerion@feddit.org 235 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Google was fine as it was before, now it does shit like this. I hate how AI is shoved down our throats. And the results on google nowadays feel so much worse and generic than a few years ago. That isn't just a feeling I have, right?

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Add obscenities to your search for the most optimized results. It drops the AI component and seems to provide the more direct results we used to get.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 36 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I just get X-rated results.

[–] Brandonazz@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Say -fuck with a hyphen at the beginning so that it doesnt search for it.

[–] Bubs12@lemm.ee 29 points 5 days ago

-fuck, that’s good.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

It appears you were looking for Lara Croft in the nude. I think I've found what you're looking for...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NuFK6cLDzT4

Edit: I can provide a build script for that.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 61 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They’re an ad company that just happens to offer search as a way to show ads.

Their ideal scenario is one where you search forever and never find what you were looking for.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They’re walking the fine line between being shitty enough that you have to refine your search multiple times (thus allowing them to show you more ads), but not being SO shitty that you give up and never come back.

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[–] officermike@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not just you. I feel like search modifiers like "NOT" or "OR" haven't been working for a good long while either.

[–] ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] officermike@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

While it's nice to finally have closure on this, it's also depressing that they removed that.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Really? Felt like Google jumped the shark quite awhile before this even started.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 14 points 5 days ago

It been a downhill slope that just keeps getting steeper. They're basically falling off a cliff right now, and their parachute is improving AI.

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[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 117 points 5 days ago (14 children)

Why do people Google questions anyway? Just search "heat cast" or "heat Angelina Jolie". It's quicker to type and you get more accurate results.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because that's the normal way in which humans communicate.

But for Google more specifically, that sort of keyword prompts is how you searched stuff in the '00s... Nowadays the search prompt actually understands natural language, and even has features like "people also ask" that are related to this.

All in all, do whatever works for you, it's just that asking questions isn't bad.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Google is not a human so why would you communicate with it as if it were a human? unlike chatgpt it's not designed to answer questions, it's designed to search for words on webpages

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[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I just tested. "Angelina jolie heat" gives me tons of shit results, I have to scroll all the way down and then click on "show more results" in order to get the filmography.

"Is angelina jolie in heat" gives me this bluesky post as the first answer and the wikipedia and IMDb filmographies as 2nd and 3rd answer.

So, I dunno, seems like you're wrong.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Have people just completely forgot how search engines work? If you search for two things and get shit results, it means those two things don't appear together.

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[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

both queries give me poor results and searching "heat cast" reveals that she is not actually in the movie, so that's probably why you can't find anything useful

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[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 12 points 5 days ago

Why use many word when few work

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[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 102 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't removing your ovaries and fallopian tubes make you not "fertile" by definition?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 68 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes, it contradicts itself within the next couple of sentences.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As per form for these "AIs".

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[–] nickiam2@aussie.zone 72 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I think the trick here is to not use Google. The Wikipedia page for the movie heat is the first result on DuckDuckGo

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You can also search Wikipedia directly.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

PSA for Firefox/fork users, click the button to the left of the search bar after clicking blank space in the search bar, you'll get a list of choices besides just your primary selection. You can add more:

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[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I use duck duck go as well. I wish it wasn't just anonymised Bing search. One of these days I'll look into an open source independent search engine.

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It also contradicts itself immediately, saying she’s fertile, then immediately saying she’s had her ovaries removed end that she’s reached menopause.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 48 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Is it considered normal to type out a normal question format when using search engines?

If I were looking for an answer instead of making a funny meme, I'd search "heat movie cast Angelina Jolie" if I didn't feel like putting any effort in.

Then again, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I've seen someone use their phone to search google "what is 87÷167?" instead of doing "87/167" or like... Opening the calculator....

People do things in different, sometimes weird ways.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It depends on the person in my experience.

For instance, I'll often use a question format, but usually because I'm looking for similar results from a forum, in which I'd expect to find a post with a similar question as the title. This sometimes produces better results than just plain old keywords.

Other times though, I'm just throwing keywords out and adding "" to select the ones I require be included.

But I do know some people who only ever ask in question format no matter the actual query. (e.g. "What is 2+2" instead of just typing "2+2" and getting the calculator dialogue, like you said in your post too.)

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[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How can she be fertile if her ovaries are removed?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because you're not getting an answer to a question, you're getting characters selected to appear like they statistically belong together given the context.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A sentence saying she had her ovaries removed and that she is fertile don't statistically belong together, so you're not even getting that.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (4 children)

You think that because you understand the meaning of words. LLM AI doesn't. It uses math and math doesn't care that it's contradictory, it cares that the words individually usually came next in it's training data.

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[–] Cordyceps@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago

And the text even ends with a mention of her being in early menopause...

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 days ago

NGL, I learned some things.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People Google questions like that? I would have looked up "Heat" in either Wikipedia or imdb and checked the cast list. Or gone to Jolie's Wikipedia or imdb pages to see if Heat is listed

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We all know how AI has made things worse, but here's some context on how it's outright backwards.

Early search engines had a context problem. To use an example from "Halt and Catch Fire", if you search for "Texas Cowboy", do you mean the guys on horseback driving a herd of cows, or do you mean the football team? If you search for "Dallas Cowboys", should that bias the results towards a different answer? Early, naive search engines gave bad results for cases like that. Spat out whatever keywords happen to hit the most.

Sometimes, it was really bad. In high school, I was showing a history teacher how to use search engines, and he searched for "China golden age". All results were asian porn. I think we were using Yahoo.

AltaVista largely solved the context problem. We joke about its bad results now, but it was one of the better search engines before Google PageRank.

Now we have AI unsolving the problem.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 22 points 5 days ago (6 children)

A statistical model predicted that "in heat" with no upper-case H nor quotes, was more likely to refer to the biological condition. Don't get me wrong: I think these things are dumb, but that was a fully predictable result. ('...the movie "Heat"' would probably get you there).

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

As a comparison I ran the same all lower case query in bing and got the answer about the movie because asking about a movie is statistically more likely than asking if a human is in heat. Google'a ai is worse than fucking bing, while google's old serach algorith consistently had the right answers.

Google made itself worse by replacing a working system with ai.

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Kagi quick answers for comparison gets this tweet, but now it thinks that heat is not the movie kind lol

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The AI ouroboros in action

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago (2 children)

google strips capitalization from searches

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 10 points 5 days ago

It's not just any human though, it's an actor, so movie related words should statistically be more likely.

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[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

This is why no one can find anything on Google anymore, they don't know how to google shit.

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You've sullied my quick answer:

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The assistant figures it out though:

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[–] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Everyone in this post is the annoying IT person who says "why don't you just run Linux?" to people who don't even fully understand what an OS is in the first place.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Heat is an excellent movie, and one of my top five. Coincidentally, I just watched it last night. For a film released in 1998, it has aged well. OOP is in the ballpark, too - a young Natalie Portman is in it, not Jolie.

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