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“This event is tragic in more ways than you people in the audience could ever fathom from a law enforcement perspective,” McNeil said.
Every time I think my opinion of cops is at rock bottom, they find a new way to piss me off. This shooting is special and bad because one of our people might get in trouble for it!!
And the usage of "you people" feels intentionally pointed. Insulting to everyone's intelligence/sense of empathy.
Then they go on to claim that they'll make sure mass shootings won't be tolerated in this country. Well where the fuck has this person been for the past few decades?
It's just cop logic. They really do see it as them vs. the general public. That's the reason ACAB.
Okay, so not that I think cops deserve fairness, but in fairness...
If she had an extremely strong devotion to her community and a sense of duty to those people, I could see how that would add a layer of grief and guilt on top of her son being an attempted mass murderer.
But given that her son had access to at least one of her weapons, I'm not certain that she's any different from the rest of the pro-gun-toting rules-don't-apply-to-us that most of the "blue lives" are.
There’s criminals under every rock and behind every tree. Gotta have unsecured guns within easy reach at all times. On counters, in bedside drawers, in closets, under car seats…
Empty words to garner sympathy and cover their own asses.
I don't get it. If you're a far-right asshole in America right now, what do you have to be angry about?
You saw this a lot in Trump's first term too. Essentially they're pissed that the world still sucks even though their guy got elected and it's breaking their brains because they think the problem is that Trump hasn't killed all the minorities or made women property or whatever it is they think will fix the world and that all hope is lost.
Its terrifying that rather than having to admit that they were wrong, people will usually double down on their positions.
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." - Carl Sagan
That's the thing. They are getting what they thought they wanted but their miserable lives so far have not become one bit less miserable. The cognitive dissonance must hurt like hell.
Experiencing the outcomes of their policy positions. That's the thing about having bad ideas. Even when you win, you lose.
Fascists hate each other just as much as they hate everyone else. It's why fascism never lasts.
I don't know... it can last as long as the "great leader". Spain's fascism lasted almost 40 years.
That you are a total loser who creeps everyone else out?
The other assholes not being quite big enough assholes to suit
They're angry that they havent been given permission to start The Purge against everybody who isn't MAGA.
Now "the liberals and their courts" are trying to stop HitlerPig's agenda, and they're getting really froggy. At some point, HitlerPig is going to make a statement that they'll interpret as "Go," and we'll have massacres all over the country.
It seems odd his mom is a sheriff given her criminal record. I would expect abducting a child to a foreign country would disqualify someone from law enforcement.
It was his stepmom's gun, not the mom's. Article was probably edited at some point, since I see at least one place where they forgot the step part.
That makes a lot more sense, there was no mention of a stepmom when I read it.
As a reminder again, not a transgender not a drag queen not a Democrat, not an immigrant.
Important to point out that it wasn't her service weapon. An officer allowing their service weapon to be used by others would be an additional serious violation of law.
This was a weapon that she purchased from the Sheriff's office when they were upgrading gear. It was, at one point, her service weapon but at the time of the shooting it was just a personally owned firearm.
It's an important distinction since this kind of misinformation implies that she was careless in securing her service weapon.
Her son was an adult and had legal access to a legally owned firearm and chose to kill people. Trying to make it about his mother because she's a cop is a pointless distraction.
Source: Public statements by Leon County Sheriff Walt McNeil
In the interest of truth this is good, but it does not change my view on law enforcement or their incapabilities.
Of course, but fight them with facts.
Misinformation is in nobody's best interest.
Correct, an officer of the law should be expected to understand safe gun handling and storage practices. Being a cop should elevate the standards you’re held to, not fucking lower them lmao.
Yeah, but apparently, the weapon was easy enough to access. Something a cop should have a higher standard of.
Your source is incredibly biased to take as fact at face value.
That doesn't mean that people are entitled to invent an alternate reality.
It's one thing if there was any evidence to the contrary, but to just assume that they're lying without any evidence is just social media brainrot
It's not brainrot. NBC's headline says it was her service weapon.
It's just clickbait from NBC, even if it is technically accurate. From the article:
Officials said that Ikner’s mother had purchased her former service weapons and that it was her personal property at the time of the shooting.
After the Parkland Massacre, Convicted Criminal Fraudster and Florida Governor Rick Scott pushed the state legislature to raise the age of gun ownership to 21. Since then, he has spent his career, now Senator, trying to change the subject whenever gun control comes up. He doesn't want anyone to remember him as the Republican governor who tried to reduce school shootings through common sense gun control.
Super Troll DeSatan not only lowered the age of handgun ownership to 18, he also abolished the old concealed carry law that required a four-hour class to get a concealed carry permit. Any 18 year old in Florida can buy a gun, stick it in their waistband, and walk around in public.
So this guy was legally allowed to possess this gun, and carry it. Currently, possession of a firearm is still illegal on a Florida college campus, but MAGA state senator Randy Fine (now a US congressman) filed legislation in February to make it legal to carry a gun on campus. Florida Republican legislators have filed a similar bill almost every year, and it always fails to pass. Now they'll say that if guns were allowed on campus, someone would have stopped this guy, and it will pass.
I'm not sure I follow, what difference does it make? He used her weapon, whatever name you put on it to kill people, because she did not store her weapons properly...
Whether it's her service weapon or emotional support weapon, it kills all the same....
Does this terrorist go to the feds for prosecution and get the death penalty?
Are you kidding? He's going to the feds for an interview.
I was, of course, being facetious. These fuckers will build statues for serial killers.
Best I can give is, THouGhtS aNd PrAyErS.
Let me tell you, as someone who isn’t getting news from television or the formerly awesome Breaking News (a digital news aggregator that was bought by NBC and later shutdown in 2016), things are bad when you hear about a mass shooting a day after it occurs. This shouldn’t be happening but it should be the worst thing making headlines. The fact it got drown out by President Dumbberfuckle Trumperdickle isn’t good.
No shit. Had he had radical leftist views, he would have violently redistributed his lunch.
And now I'm imagining leftists going around projectile vomiting on people.
Better: projectile vomiting on the great orange turd or anyone in his assministration.
Unsurprising. Lone actor grievance fuelled violence also often has misogynistic roots.
Time to charge her.
Surprising nobody who knew him...
I'm out of thoughts and prayers. How about some jokes or a riddle?... George Carling was the greatest!
I'm out of thoughts and prayers. How about some jokes or a riddle?... George Carling was the greatest!
Not as good as Richard Prior!
My comment doesn't add to this conversation, but I'm curious about why you quote the entirety of the comment that you were responding directly to.
I'm not going to tell you what you can and can't do, but it seems pointless and a waste of screen space to me, so I'd like to understand why some people do this if you don't mind sharing.
It's really not a big deal though, I'm just interested in the why.
My guess has always been that it's a habit from forum days. Does that ring true for you?
I intentionally misspelled Richard Pryor's name, as a joke response to him saying George Carling instead of George Carlin.
Wanted to make sure the joke didn't die in case he saw the mistake and edited it. 😂
Naw you nailed the joke but markko has a good point as well. I wouldve quoted after the ellipses, personally, but my internettiquette is still very much a product of my play-by-post RPG forum days.
However, you do you man, and I hope you have a good day!
wow, the psychotic mass shooter was a far right terrorist? whoda thunk? It's ~~almost like it's~~ fucking ALWAYS THEM.