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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 169 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

From now on you must view all of their words and actions through the lens of a fascist dictatorship. This is almost certainly propaganda intended to increase fear of Chinese supremacy and using that fear as an excuse to invade Panama.

I hard doubt the US doesn't have classified hypersonic missile tech, and even if they don't, this admin won't stop maintaining, building, or deploying these "vulnerable" billion dollar aircraft carriers. Everything conservatives and DOGE cut is everything that benefits the working class, and increases their quality of life and economic mobility. They never cut anything that enables their authoritarian capabilities.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

Don't forget how they were able to slap a basically poor-only tax with their tariff bullshit.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

I hard doubt the US doesn’t have classified hypersonic missile tech....

The HACM (Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile) is already out there.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, carriers in this modern age probably are mostly sitting ducks against any modern adversary. They could barely take on Yemen.

If your adversary has satellites that can tell them where you are and a sufficient amount of missiles / torpedoes, there's only so much you can do.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

This is absolutely true. Carriers are very vulnerable to advanced anti-ship missiles. But people with staunch political views have alternative truths they prefer to see propagated, so you've been punished.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 95 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How the hell would this guy know? He's not qualified to run a game of RISK much less comment on anything that really involves defense

[–] prex@aussie.zone 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What do you mean? This is the secretary of defence, a highly qualified post that...
...oh, oh no. Wow, you guys have problems.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't even keep track of which positions have the dumbest trump appointments. They're pretty much everywhere at this point.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Can we do a competition? I thought Tulsi would've been hard to beat, but Walz came from behind in the signal chat incident.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But, you see, he looks like a secretary of defense, so therefore he must be an excellent one!

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

He looks like his mom dresses him.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago

Hegseth himself is a bigger threat to the US than China will ever be.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 62 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why would they bother when Trump is going to sink the whole country?

[–] Atin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Never interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

and that is putins plan essentially, needs USA out of the way so russia can reclaim former soviet states.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This guy can't even name a single country in ASEAN but is giving advice on china, a neighbour of ASEAN. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/trump-defence-secretary-pete-hegseth-cannot-name-asean-country-4862576

Russia can wipe out US in 15mins using all their nukes in a suicide attack. worry about Russia first. Defeat russia in Ukraine first, russia is much weaker than china in GDP, show that you can kick russia out of Ukraine first.

[–] admin@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

"Russian army underwhelmingly unprepared and weak according to Chinese POW" lol

https://lemmy.world/post/28249156

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Him not being able to name a single ASEAN country should have instantly destroyed his career. It's literally in the name so it just means he doesn't even know what it is and then that absolute moron continued to name all other neighboring countries that are not part of ASEAN lmao.

America will never recover from this. It secured its image as a disgruntled band of intellectual retards for the next several decades at least.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think the correct question here is:

"Why? They couldn't before you were in charge."

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Biden didn't leave the keys to the anti sink plugs I guess.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Thanks Obama

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Hypersonic missiles could destroy every major city in the US in 20 minutes. Just have to put a nuclear warhead in them. The US is deploying hypersonic missiles too. This doesn't change anything except that in the case of Armageddon we will have half as much time to find someone to bang before we die.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why does this feel like they want to throw even more money at the military industrial complex?

[–] GenXLiberal@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly - they can’t use Russia’s military strength as the boogie-man any longer.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It’s fine. They’ll just find more fraud waste and abuse

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

This article's been here for almost an hour, are the aircraft carriers still okay?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

"We need to enslave and control the population to survive against a perceived or projected foreign enemy." Translation from Trump cabinet language to English.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

China can kill us. We need more money for war. (Has the biggest and most expensive military in the world) SMH

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Btw isnt this also true vice versa? With the way technology is today(even disregarding nuclear) you could completely destroy your oponents navy if you have hypersonic missiles which, if i understand correctly, a lot of countries have considering how effective they are

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure what they can do. I seen to remember Russia shooting 6 of these at Ukraine in 2023 and then being shot down. I assume they must be different?

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Russia shot old school missiles at Ukraine and One ICMB, that hit put rest of EU on alert leading to an increased military budge

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Someone should tell interestingengineering.com who Pete Hegseth is because obviously they haven't been paying attention for the last few months.

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Press X to doubt.

[–] BossPaint@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just imagine that almost all large military vehicles are sitting ducks to drones and such. Just look at Ukraine vs. Russia’s navy.

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

The problem with USVs is they're relatively slow, if a ship is aware of their presence and is in a fighting state - it can get rid of a bunch of them. And it seems that navy helicopters are a decent counter, but overall it's too early to tell if USVs are that good or was it the element of surprise.

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

Lol press x to doubt

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

China watching the Houthis fail to hit a single ship with a 30 missile salvo:

Even with supersonic anti ship missiles, successfully attacking the US navy is notoriously difficult, to the point that they've actually averted invading Taiwan unless some golden opportunity falls into their lap.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That would be shocking if true. The US takes its naval defences very seriously

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

During some war games a few years ago, the Dutch Navy managed to score a hit against a US Navy carrier using a diesel sub.

Like someone else said here, carriers are big, slow targets, it's not impossible for something to sneak past and sink them.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was impressive but it happened in 1999. The Dutch Captain said that he doubted he could do it again and indeed a different Dutch Submarine failed at it the next year.

Carriers are considerable faster (30 Knots) than Diesel Subs (20 Knots) too, something the Dutch Captain touches on in that article.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Well in my mind few years ago was 1999...

Seriously though I thought this only happened within the last 10 years, TIL.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not in anyway an expert on matters naval, but diesel subs are pretty quiet running on electric motors. Nuclear reactors make more noise.

Feel free to correct me.

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

against hypersonic missile (speed mach 5 to mach 25), good luck to spot it and try to destroy it before it reaches you

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Most claimed "hypersonic" missiles can't actually manoeuvre at those speeds so you can spot them at distance and work out where you need to send an interceptor missile. We saw this with Patriot batteries vs Kinzhal in Ukraine.

[–] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Should be pretty easy to spot, those nose cones will be glowing in the atmosphere like rudolfs nose

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

To be fair, he was completely hammered when he said that and doesn't remember it at all.

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think the Chinese Mach 10 Yj-21 hypersonic missile should send pretty much any carrier group to hell if they have 2 or 3 of the type 055 destroyers launching them at once.

Given any carrier battles probably happening in the Tawain strait I'd expect the land based and fighter based missiles would be launched as well so yeah I give the US really no chance of winning that one as things stand.

I think the US badly needs the same type of missile but they seem to be only getting failures, I read earlier in the week they'd cancelled another (Halo).

Don't get me wrong I'm sure the US could launch enough of their own LRASMs (stealth anti ship missile) to do some damage back but they'd likely not survive to see the result or get that many planes airborne to launch them.

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