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[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 226 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

People are checking out because the middle class is non-existent. It doesn’t matter how hard you work - the the prospect of getting ahead, owning a home, retirement is out of reach for the vast majority of people.

People can work hard and stress themselves out or they can check out of the system and achieve largely the same result.

This is about the failures of late stage capitalism. To claim the issue is free healthcare is gaslighting.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Middle class" contrasts with "upper class" and "lower class", not with "ruling class" and "working class"; it's the wrong perspective.

[–] FragrantGarden@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It may be today, but a strong middle class is what placates the working class. Give em something to shoot for so they won't shoot you.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Middle class" IS working class. It's a false distinction that only serves to undermine our only tool against the ruling class, class solidarity. (I think we're kind of saying the same thing.)

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 17 points 1 week ago

Gaslight

Obstruct

Project

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 138 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this free healthcare you speak of in the room with us right now?

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is he mad that young adults can stay on their parents' health plan until age 26?

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Which the parents pay for.... They just don't know what words mean anymore.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 124 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Look up the book "Hell's Angel's" by Hunter Thompson.

There's a section in the book where he writes about the economics of being a hippie/biker/artist circa 1970.

A biker could work for six months as a Union stevedore and save up enough money to go on the road for two years. A part time waitress could support herself and her musician boyfreind.

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's what these guys grew up seeing and reading, huh? So they're trying to govern with assumptions that have not held true for decades.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

No they are not governing. They are attempting to rule using rhetoric they know sticks with older generations. That's it. Just gotta keep people voting and they will say and do anything to get those votes.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile: Politicians who never had a day of honest work their entire life.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where are they getting free healthcare from? I'd like it. Oh does Canada have this problem? No? Huh

[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

We still have widespread disengagement in Canada too because the problem isn’t the healthcare.

The problem is wage suppression and corporate greed.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where are they getting the money for the games? Those are expensive as shit, I’m still making do with games I bought decades ago because I can’t afford new ones.

How are they eating? Food is fucking expensive, are they getting free food as well?

How are they paying rent? Have to have a roof over your head and electricity in your walls to play video games all day.

This mother fucker thinks all guys are like his son, lazy mother fuckers mooching off their parents. What a dumb, ignorant moron.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Free Healthcare ? In Amerikkka ?

Since when ?

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only when you're so poor (earn less than 15k/yr out 21k a year in some states) not having it functionally costs more money, but only so long as you follow all the bureaucratic rules to continually prove eligibility.

And don't forget, you still have to find healthcare providers that accept Medicaid, pay copays, etc.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

free healthcare

does he think everyone in the US gets the same healthcare that congresspeople get?

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[–] remon@ani.social 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where can I get this free healtcare that pays your rent?

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So us person here. This free healthcare he speaks of is news to me.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

This is rich coming from someone that has literally never worked a days labor in their lives.

Young men as a cohort have a 90% employment rate.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Theres nowhere in the country that has legitimate free healthcare, and only a small handful of states that have healthcare for those below the poverty line.

Where are these supposed young people just living it up off free healthcare?

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

how do i leech off of free healthcare that sounds really good

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Become a congressperson, they get Medicare for life just like every other citizen should have but don't because Congress will grant it to themselves but not everyone else. If it's good enough for them it should be good enough to cover us.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

Get elected to the US Congress. They don't do anything and get 6 figure salaries AND free Healthcare!

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[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Free healthcare doesn't pay rent or utilities. I would love to stay at home and play video games regardless of my healthcare status, but I simply couldn't afford to.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The amount of dirty looks I got today casually playing slay the spire on my steam deck as a 41 year old man in the waiting room of a medical facility was pretty impressive.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure. Let's just pretend video games are free. And so is healthcare. Also, how much health care does he think young people use? This is a stupid argument.

[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee 29 points 1 week ago

Please tell me more about this free healthcare

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Pretty rich coming from a guy who lets trump take every power congress is supposed to hold. WTF does he even do at work? If we stopped paying him, would anything at all happen? Every republican seems like a whiny crybullying grifter to me.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Young men who are capable of playing video games all day are likely depressed, and have a clinical problem. Our volition to be productive was demonstrated during the 2020 lockdown and the great resignation of 2021-22, in which young men (as with all other working demographics) learned:

  • They felt better in a non-toxic work environment
  • They couldn't couch potato for more than a week without getting fierce cabin fever, and
  • They got highly skilled when they were doing a thing they liked.

The ones who resigned from old jobs were the ones who were able to monetize their hobby enough to quit. Many more got productive, but didn't find something in their craft for which there was a ready market.

Speaker Johnson is a fierce MAGA and conforms to the common fascist trope of never speaking in good faith. See Sartre's antisemite quote.

With several perspectives including that crunch remains a thing in AAA game development, our ownership class and CEOs are less concerned about maximizing profits than they are being lords with a feif and peons (compulsory servitude).

Oh and death to all monarchists. Disney deaths preferred.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You gotta be fucking kidding me. What sort of disconnected boomer statement is that!?

I hate using such terms as "boomer", but how else am I going to describe this?

I'm in Denmark, and I can just about get by on one job. I have friends from America struggling to make ends meet, and they're working TWO jobs!

So the fuck is this guy talking about!?

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I would prefer to work a job than to grind in a videogame. Unfortunately, Americans live in a nation where bad working conditions, low pay, heavy competition, instability, and ghost jobs makes job seeking unpalatable.

American capitalism is a cancer.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Music is making younger generations lazy.

Nono, it's books.

Nono, it's film.

Nono, it's TV.

Nono, it's music again, but only certain kinds of music like rock and metal.

Nono, it's video games.

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

Lyin’ Mike at it again

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Health care is a human right

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

"No one has talked about cutting one benefit in Medicaid to anyone who's duly owed—what we've talked about is returning work requirements, so, for example, you don't have able-bodied young men on a program that's designed for single mothers and the elderly and disabled. They're draining resources from people,” said House Speaker Mike Johnson last week.

'Get fucked poors, sucks to suck when working full time still keeps you below the poverty line. Can't afford to pay for you lazy fucks to see a doctor when we've got rich people who need the money more'

[–] cmrn@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

People turning to escapism because the world is shit?

FUCK THAT LET’S MAKE IT WORSE THEN.

[–] ellypony@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

My brother I am going to find every outlet of escapism possible to cope with the reality that your generation had a massive part in creating. Sorry 💅

[–] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  • No job, grind away the entire waking day with a low paying zero hours contract while filing job applications, No videogames, no relaxation, more stress, costs healthcare providers more

  • No job, spend some of the day working while filing job applications, Yes Videogames, relaxation, lower stress, costs healthcare providers less

Yet another case where if the politician seriously thought about the issue for just half a minute they'd realise their attitude makes no sense.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Imagine living in a country that has turn to shit so long ago that you can't believe that it is possible for people can be motivated to work without resorting to the constant threat of being left to die if they don't.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

He knows this is false. It's bait, that even i see this time. There really is nothing to see here

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this dude and his son monitor each other's devices to make sure they don't consume porn. i don't think he should be allowed to talk about literally anyone else's habits.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey look, an "elite" with absolutely no concept of how actual reality works, who's just trying to stir up a base consisting of people with IQs smaller than their shoe size.

I promise you, if I could stay home all day and play video games by somehow using free healthcare, I'd be doing it.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

"I want to check that old building for treasure!" vs. "I want to check my son's porn usage".

[–] thatsmysandwich@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Adding my health Card number to my steam account payment method.

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