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You have entire corporations, nation-wide that are backed by religious nuts and racists, entire state-sized organizations of assholes paid from the bottom-up, and unless science and education has the same backing, we will lose.
When's the last time a rock band was labeled a "science band", but you can name four or five christian bands without even listening to them?
There are entire record companies and publishing houses that do nothing but spread more of it, interest groups in the billions of dollars that circulate faith and blindness. Even philanthropy, and a yelling preacher on every corner, sometimes across the street from one another, hospitals, nonprofits, foundations, you name it.
Christianity and Judaism is so overblown in support, we shouldn't expect anything less than absolute ignorance. Look what's pushing it.
I mean math rock is a genre, in fairness
Time to program something nasty and tricky or tweaking in a tight part: put on the math metal and figure it out.
Science shouldn't be compared to religion. On one hand because the doctrine of non-overlapping magesteria which all religions should follow (it can be summed up as anything Science has a say in, religion shouldn't). But also like science shouldn't bother competing here. When science is treated as religion, it's often abused similarly. Its a method for understanding the world.
The fact that pv=nRT is provable and if I go and get rudimentary equipment to do this I can double check without any scientists present. Sure there are stories associated with science, but unlike in religion they aren't the stuff its made of. Science doesn't ask for praise or belief, it asks for skepticism, curiosity, and precision.
Edit: wait, does Muse's album "the second law" count as science rock? It slapped and was about thermodynamics to a certain degree
I feel like a pedant, but I'm sorry, the notion that most Americans can name five Christan bands/artists is bullshit. Maybe most Bible Belters can. Christian music gets the designation of "Christian music" because it is segregated away from everything else, listened to by a large, but still niche demographic who are already very religious, and treated as a joke by everyone else (including most non-Evangelical Christians.)
I can name two, Skillet and Red Jumpsuit Apparatus. The former is just the band I see mentioned to make jokes about Christian music, and the latter I saw on a show about one hit wonders (the hit is about domestic violence and doesn't even have faith based undertones.) If I start making exceptions like "became Christian after the height of their fame" (Kansas and Kanye West) or "stopped being Christian before they became known" (Katy Perry) I can get to five.
And on that note, what would a "science band" be? Like, a band that writes lyrics about new scientific discoveries? Yeah that'd have more in common with Nick Jr. than most music, secular or not. Most music deals with emotions in a way Christian music can but "science music" couldn't. The closest would be philosophy, but there's already a ton of music drawing on philosophy, and nobody segregates it from normal music because it's not music that only appeals to a specific demographic.
....not Creed tho?
Science music... Rush, maybe.
Didn't know Creed was Christian (and it seems at least debatable whether they fit the label of "Christian music.") So that hurts my point I guess.
Where exactly are the Jews advocating for cutting educational resources? Jews in general perform far better on educational metrics than most other groups, and their whole religion is based on reading, study, and debate.
the Jews(Israel) advocate for Zionism which I'd argue is equivalent in danger to some fundamentalist Christians seeking white nationalism.
Ironic
This is a discussion about literacy my dude
Oh, that makes it ok, then.
No that makes it irrelevant dumbass
Palestinians are not irrelevant, dude.
downvoted you too, thanks.
and no, you're right. The Zionist state spends billions annually to perpetuate their victim complex. American media and our educational system is rife with their propaganda and pro-Israel rhetoric. You knew that.
You need to go outside and touch grass dude.