Especially, whem taking into the account of a possible change of regime in their new country that coulds result in deportation back to their former country. Is this a common fear?
I was born in Mainland China, and I immigrated to the USA as a child, and I have Derivative US Citizenship.
Now the US's own Autocratization is bringing up a lot of fears.
For one, of couse I could end up in a concentration camp, similar to what happened to Japanese Americans during WW2.
But also, I could lose citizenship due to the current administration's hostility and xenophobia, and end up getting deported.
And I fucking despise the CCP, since they fucking tried to kill me before I was even born (long story short: One Child Policy; I was the second child, they tried to locate my mother when she had the second pregnancy, they didn't find her so here I am). I have talked so much shit about the CCP while in the US, IRL and online, if the CCP has a competent intelligence agency (which they do), then they already know that I'm a dissident and my life would be miserable if I get deported to China.
So there is few possibilities, if I lose citizenship status.
I could end up stateless. Which is terrible.
I could end up in China. Which is absolutely horrifying.
Or I could end up in Guantanamo, or some other country trump has negotiated with to take deportees, which is just... fucking the worse possible timeline.
I mean, just look at recent news. Anyone deemed "pro-hamas" would get deported.
Honestly, these thoughts is why I have never really attended a protest in the US. I know Lemmy would call me a coward, and I probably am a coward. But I just never feel safe anywhere. You know the saying "when in rome, do as roman do". So yea, I just never feel like I'm really I can speak out against the injustice in the US, I know the "First Amendment" and all that, but doesn't mean much when the president actively disrespects the constitution.
I don't even know if shitposting on Lemmy is safe either, but hopefully this is not on the US government's top of the list.
So yea, the autocrats won. They've already made me too scared to dissent (other than online shitposts that will do absolutely nothing).
(I don't meet any eligibility to immigrate to the EU, so not an option either)
TIL, thanks.
Nope, not iranian - i'm from the arabian peninsula, a specific monarchy in particular. I doubt that they're terrified of me lol, this is a losing game, no matter what.
So you've noticed.... The west only cares about anti-fascism and anti-imperialism when it threatens them. But it's completely fine if millions of third worlders have to suffer under both, since cheap oil :(
Ah, well, fuck. Then I don't really have a positive spin on it.
Maybe the US crashing and burning will at least limit US influence on the Arab world, opening at least a slight hope for improvements in the region in the long run. It's a weird world - yesterday it was Europe and the US against the rest, today Europe stands alone and Russia is paralysed in Syria. Maybe tomorrow we'll see genuine alliances between Europe and countries in the Arab world that are not entirely built around exploitation and sucking up to dictators.
Maybe. But I'm not holding my breath.
I'd never hold my breath on this unfortunately. Europe is still not sinless, they have blood on their hands, funding both the sudanese and gazan genocide. And they have yet to pay reparations for the devastating damages of colonialism/imperialism, which has directly caused the death and suffering of millions.
The world is unfair, but no one cares about us.
If we want to talk about why European countries have blood on their hand we could keep going all day.
I'd push back a little against the notion that nobody cares. You don't have many (any?) political allies who are willing to stand up against dictatorships and let go of their cheap oil supplies, but you do have people and organizations who care.
The International Criminal Court did, among other things, issue an arrest warrant on Netanyahu. I think we have managed to establish international law, but not yet international justice. As a result it's easy to give up and consider it all to be false promises and lies, and to a degree that's not entirely wrong. But I nevertheless believe that current-day international law is the greatest achievement we have made since the second world war, and establishing international law is the fundamental first step towards international justice.
I have a lot of friends working for various international organizations, and while it's one hell of an uphill battle, I can assure you that there are people out there working tirelessly to try to make a change. And despite everything, most European countries are still supportive of the ICC and in favour of establishing an international legal order.
If we want to be hopeful about Europe, it has to be judged by it's commitment to that promise, and not by the corrupt, narcissistic, or plain moronic leaders who are way too frequently put in charge.
Thanks. It feels like every interaction with europeans i have about this is "well these countries are necessary for us! They're strategic allies and better than XYZ (usually russia or china)" while ignoring the people who have to suffer the consequences. Out of sight, out of mind...
It's refreshing to hear at least some people care about us.
We have all these ideas about universal human rights, and we are trying to wish them into existence. So we teach them to children as if they are something they should believe already exists, not as it's an ideal we are working towards.
I think the idea is that it will make people more protective of human rights, but the flip side is that people seem very reluctant to see the cracks in the fiction they have been sold. And then when/if they realize the state of the world they often become jaded, acting as if the realization that it's all a fake construct is somehow the greatest insight on earth.
And then, if they're good people, they start working to make the fiction just a little bit more real.