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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 59 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (9 children)

Way easier to die from cocaine...

"The lethal dose of cocaine is 82.5 milligrams per kilogram (mg/kg)."

https://www.addictionresource.net/lethal-doses/cocaine/

"Blood alcohol concentrations (BAC) of 0.31% to 0.45% are considered life-threatening. The lethal dose of alcohol is about 5 to 8 grams per kilogram of body weight (g/kg)."

https://www.addictionresource.net/lethal-doses/alcohol/

Google tells me 1 shot of whiskey is about 14g of pure alcohol, so a fatal dose for someone weighing 81kg (180 pounds) would be 29 to 46 shots, or 43.5 to 69 ounces. (Nice!)

A standard 750ml liquor bottle is 25.3 ounces.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago

I mean, yeah, but if you had it regulated to the point where people could dose accordingly, it would lower overdoses. Street stuff, you could get a batch 5x more potent than the last and take the same amount and die. I've always been a legalize and tax all drugs person. People are going to do it regardless, and making it illegal creates cartels and clogs up the jails with nonviolent offenders.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Well, we also don’t include all the drunk driving deaths, or the “he gets like that when he drinks” abuse. Is cocaine worse? Yea probably. Is drinking safe enough for the favourable comparison just because it’s harder to OD? Ehhhhh…

[–] lookupgeorgism@lemm.ee 10 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Right but you don’t chug a pint of cocaine

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Nah, that's what the gallon of liquid meth is for.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Definitely true! I hope nobody chugs a pint of pure alcohol either!

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

The point is how much you need to take for an active dose (eg getting drunk/high) and when you take this into account - it's actually more likely you'll kill yourself getting drunk than doing coke.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Drug_danger_and_dependence.svg

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago

So downing a 1.5 litre neck of vodka in a hurry can kill you (if you can keep it down). And of course, if you're taking something else at the same time, there can be synergistic effects that considerably lower the lethal dosage.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Now how many average sized lines of cocaine is 82 milligrams?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I guess it depends on the line, but 1/8th of an ounce is 3.5g, 2 of those could be fatal for someone 180 pounds.

https://pacificsandsrecovery.com/what-is-an-eight-ball-of-coke/

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That's quite a large amount of coke though

And as the normal route is too snort it, I'm pretty sure you will have a hard time to get that much stuff inside you at once

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I don't even know where to being with that. But we at least know you don't drink.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

What was said is sort of true, but that's not how most alcohol related deaths work.

The actual required amount in the system is relatively quite high when it comes to ethanol LD50. The problem is that long before that, most people pass out. And the deaths come from things related to that, usually vomiting, aspiration and asphyxiation. Or depressed respiration or interactions with other things that impact the heart.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Oh, that's definitely true. If I have one beer I puke for three days:

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17659-alcohol-intolerance

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I mean, yes, but by the same token beer is far less lethal than whiskey. Our response to that is to sell beer in pints and whiskey in smaller glasses. Just wondering why such an approach would be impossible for drugs.