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It has been proven that Trump is a violent rapist. I'd rather have an alleged gang member, who has obviously reformed, on the streets than an insane felon ruling the country like a tyrant.
Dishonest interlocutor,
Only a racist and bigot would attempt to justify harm to someone on the basis of their nationality, or race, or immigrant status by using the crimes of another.
Enjoy this list of murder victims for which you are not held to account, yet enjoy the same immigration status of their killer:
I called you dishonest. I said you committed the actions of a racist and bigot.
The point i made is very simple. Every citizen does not have to account for the murders of their fellow citizen. Just as every immigrant does not have to account for the murders of their fellow immigrants. To make that assertion is racist and bigoted. I even explained how the people on the list were chosen.
You also make assumptions about how i consider the prison. I don’t consider it “like the Holocaust” i consider it like a concentration camp. We shall see if they get around to mass executions.
Also this prison may contain people who have committed murder and rape. But to assign that to everyone who is in there is a category error. In the case of the person we are talking about, there was no finding he committed any crime. In fact he was abducted and detained without trial, which means he is innocent, until proven otherwise. He was not even accused by the trump administration of murder or rape. He was accused of being in a gang after the fact without evidence.
Statement: It’s good to have immigrants, it’s not good to have murderers.
Dishonest American interlocutor,
When you cite a murder by ‘some illegal immigrant’ to justify the harm done to a completely unrelated, legally present individual, your justification does not discriminate. That’s collective punishment by nationality—by definition, bigoted and racist. I never called you those things; I called you dishonest. Your words speak for themselves.
According to a study cited by The Sentencing Project, about 1% of people released from prison after serving time for a violent crime were subsequently arrested for murder within five years of release. So why focus on that one case, just because it is about an immigrant?
Let me ask you a simple question what justifies the attempted coup? The overthrowing of democracy by a bunch of violent rioters storming the capital?
The man from Maryland was not a gang member. Why do you trust that this is true?
Through which process was this proven?
Given that the previous sentence says the opposite, I can’t tell - is this a typo?
Also, what would change if they gave each gang member a trial and showcased their crimes before sending them off? Skipping due process and failing to share any evidence publicly smells very much like they were not actually criminals to me.
You’re right, we should use our biases and opinions about the nature of this situation based on sensationalist news instead of due process.