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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 225 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

His last words

He was asked how many shooters were trans in the last 10 years and replied "Too many"

He was corrected, the number is 5.

He was then asked how many shootings happened in these years (there were 5700)

He asked back: "Counting or not counting gang violence?" and got shot

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 148 points 1 day ago (4 children)

His last word was "violence".

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And isn't it poetic?
Don't you think?

It's like rain on that assholes birthday
It's a free ride when they've already paid
It's the gun shot that you just took to the neck And who would've thought? It figures

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

If some historian a hundred years from now or whatever wants to say this moment represented a real turning point, please don't

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A sniper with an innate sense of comedic timing?

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe he was waiting for Chuck to say a number. But chuck was too slippery. One last owning of the libs, right before he was triggered. At least you know he died doing that thing where he opens his mouth and just kind of shows his gums with glee

If violence isn’t working, you’re not using enough violence.

shot; dies

Narrator:

the violence worked.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I always said "You can tell when Charlie Kirk is arguing in bad faith by when his lips are moving and sounds are coming out."

And it was literally the last thing he ever did.

[–] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lying for money. I hope he saved enough for his family

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I do unironically feel bad for his kids, even if they may grow up better without him they still watched their dad get ganked in public. Note they were with him at the time.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did not know that... That sucks

And I wasn't being ironic either. I hope his ill gotten gains are enough for his kids to be ok... The damage he did collecting it will never equal what he squirreled away, but hopefully it at least is enough for his kids to grow up with food and therapists

That's my take as well, right now they need comfort food and a highly respected trauma therapist. Maybe keep them away from crowds for awhile as well, who knows what issues will start to manifest in the coming days/weeks/months/years.

You're looking to feel sad for someone because a violemce happened, but this wasn't bad.

Feel sad for his victims, cry with joy for those who now won't be, or shut the hell up and enjoy your sippy cup of champaigne.

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (8 children)

“Gang violence” = racist dog whistle. The assassin couldn’t have picked a more perfect time to fire. 😂

[–] Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean ideally it would've been at his time of birth

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Okay, second-best time. 😂

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[–] jimmux@programming.dev 37 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn't count for some reason?

I guess we'll never know.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

It's a common talking point among the right that there aren't really that many mass shootings in America if you exclude gang violence. Y'know, which is done by and only effects those people

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 41 points 1 day ago

Pointing out that gangs do a lot of violence is an attempt to shift blame onto the demographic groups which are overrepresented in gangs due to socioeconomic reasons (systemic racism).

[–] abir_v@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Given who he was, probably the latter as a to-him socially acceptable racist dog whistle.

acceptable

I bdt he was pretty piseed he had to dog-whistle it.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Using one minority as a scapegoat for gun violence wasn't working, so he was switching to a different minority.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

As others mentioned, "gang violence" is generally a euphemism for non white, especially poor, people. I used to listen to Knowledge Fight(stopped after election not because of the boys, but didn't want to hear Jones gloat) and during several shootings that involved black victims Jones dismissed it as gang violence.

One case I recall was a shooting in a school in GA that he was spinning some other way, until he found out the school was primarily black and the victim (who survived iirc) was black. He then just stated the kid was in a gang with no proof and dismissed the story.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's a deflection technique. The intention was to not answer or address the question at all, but to shift to another topic he could more easily use to manipulate his audience. If you've ever watched him "debate" he was a master of deflection.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

he was a master of deflection.

With words, maybe. With lead, evidently not.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Now that you mention it, this seems most likely.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Just some good old racism

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It was more anti-trans hate mongering. 2 or 3 trans shooters out of 5700 is nothing. If you can whittle down the number of "mass shootings" to just a handful of incidents, can make it seem like trans people are vastly over-represented among school shooters.

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[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He was obviously arguing that skin colour minorities were doing any shooting that trans Americans weren't. Because his goal in life was to make people feel like they belonged - by vilifying out groups. And then monetizing that shit.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

He was engaging in hate-mongering right until the end. Just like the Nazi propagandists of the WW2 era, he was spreading a message of a demonized minority group being responsible for countless crimes and social ills. He ran literally the exact same playbook against trans people as the Nazis did against Jews.

I have no more sympathy for him than the Nazi propagandists we hanged at Nuremberg. They're guilty of the exact same crimes against humanity.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seriously? We’re living in a movie.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

It gets dumber...there was a school shooting today, 3 kids dead, 1 state over from this.

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Reality displayed an immaculate sense of poetic justice today.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Does anyone have video of this? (This conversation, not the shooty part) All the news media are quoting this while referring to a video but not showing it.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I watched the close up video and didn’t find it traumatic especially given all what has been happening in gaza and Ukraine, not to mention the children being shot in schools

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I had the same experience. It's regrettable how desensitized to violence I am these days.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I saw it unintentionally and it was horrifying. It's always horrifying to see such a thing, no matter who it is.

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[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're /very/ intertwined. I don't recommend looking for it unless you want trauma

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, like less than a second after he says violence is a sudden and absurd amount of gore

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

A full on tarintino, some would say

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