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Serious answers only. For over a year I was told that trump "doesn't have anything to do with that".

I honestly need to know from an actual Republican who believed trumps words and is now witnessing p2025 almost hit 50% completion with the department of education getting dismantled.

And with that; how do these people feel that public schools, daycare centers and tech schools all going to cost 3-6x as much as it does now for tuition?

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 159 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Truth.

Some will call Lemmy an echo chamber. Personally, I don't give a damn. Sharing platforms with far-right lunatics is a deeply unpleasant experience.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't need dumbass opinions in any chamber I'm occupying, Republicans can stay gone for all I care

I like to fuck with em when I can. Keep the space hostile to them, it worked for punk bars it works for us.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] THB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago

I do have to agree with that.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like to fuck with em when I can. Keep the space hostile to them, it worked for punk bars it works for us.

Heh come make a meme or 2 on !conservative@lemmy.world though I will admit it's a tad less fun without actual conservatives to downvote, but it's still fun lolol

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't mean to criticize what you've done with the place, but I do think it might've been interesting to have something that purported to be a sincere community for conservatives but that wasn't moderated as a 'safe space' for them.

[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Shout out to Turbohaüs in Montreal

[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would be one thing if we were debating different ways to solve health care, education, incarceration, mental health, homelessness, wealth inequality, or something else.

While I personally think the right is wrong in their solutions I’d be happy to debate them.

But the right isn’t talking about these issues or solutions for them. You can’t have a debate when you’re talking about two completely different things.

[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not just different things, but whether those things even exist

Like, I'm all about debating the best approaches to fighting climate change. I'm not about debating whether it exists.

You can't debate solutions when you disagree about what the problem is

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Especially when they think your views are the problem.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As much as I can understand your point, it's a truth that if you can argue against your beliefs, you have a full understanding of both sides. You should be well versed in order to provide a solid understanding. Just as one side wants the other to hear reason, there has to be a common ground somewhere.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's fantastic advice. Every now and then you gotta check yourself. Those MAGA folks don't know they're brainwashed, and honestly, neither would any of us. Nobody is too smart for propaganda!

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh great Garfield of the lasagna, share with us your wisdom.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But my government says so.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those MAGA folks don't know they're brainwashed, and honestly, neither would any of us.

I challenge this line of reasoning. All that is required is asking the question "is that true?", then attempting to answer that question. There are very few modern conservative talking points that cannot be riddled with holes via 10 min of googling. I understand that people of western society have had our attention robbed of us, but all that is required is a desire to know the truth. They don't. They want to have an interesting story that triggers their emotions. I will not abide apologies for anyone still supporting the MAGA agenda.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Oh for sure. I did a deep dive into Fox News to try to understand where they were coming from and it's all just blatant bullshit. And I honestly tried to find at least one valid argument that I probably wouldn't agree with.

Just gotta check every now and then.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Understanding the other side doesn't mean there will be a common ground. Understanding nazis doesn't mean there is common ground to share with them.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Welllllllll, you're probably right. I hope you're right. But, just to be on the safe side of sane, please allow me to recommend this nicely-made retrospective about the 2001 film portraying the Wannsee conference, for your cerebral pleasure.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The problem is literally that people keep labeling anything slightly right of genderqueer marxist-lenninist a "nazi". There's plenty of common ground between what Lemmy considers a "Nazi" and actual Nazis.

[–] revanthetrueemperor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Did you lived under a rock for the last two months??? The Republican are literally nazis. They are doing nazi salute at their rally, Deporting people to camp, Censuring scientific paper that disagree with them, Actively trying to genocide at least one group of person, dismantling law and order in the usa, Ect...

If you think we can have common ground with these people that say a lot about your political views.... (And please "everything slightly right of genderqueer Marxist leninist" was absolutely pathetic. First its completely hypocrite, people using the word nazi is too much for you but the people you dont like are Communist? And further more .... I mean yeah people who think we should prevent genderqueer people from existing are at the very least Nazi aligned "

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We're not talking about the politicians here, we're talking about individuals in society who aren't responsible for the things you point out. Normal people who visit Lemmy.

Nobody is calling anyone communist, it was used as an anchor point for the reference in the political spectrum. Hell, the word communist wasn't even used, you're putting words into my mouth.

The word "Nazi" has been devalued so much because of how easily the word is thrown around. It's slapped onto anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with wildly out of touch values commonly put forth on Lemmy.

Politics isn't black and white. It's not even a fucking spectrum. It's a multi-thorned spider graph with an incredible number of facets surrounding everything from Employment, to Belief Systems, to Social Safety, and many other things. To immediately label anyone and everyone who doesn't hit FULL FUCKING TILT on all of your issues a "Nazi" just means you're not mature enough to have an adult conversation about the topic and that you're living in a bubble of unreality.

We have more in common than we disagree on. The first step is not throwing a tantrum like a god damn child.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Exluding intolerance doesn't result in an echo chamber.