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Like crewless, zero crew. There isn't even any flight attendants.

Pilots are just an AI Autopilot and flight attendants are all just robots.

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

It’s coming. You won’t be able to stop it.

The thing is they aren’t going to jump to this quickly. The first thing you’ll see are single pilot ops, largely augmented with automation.

Once that is proven they will reduce responsibilities for the single crew until the plane is fully automated.

Once the fully automated flight is trusted and proven they will remove the single pilot.

This will take decades.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

At my age at least I won't live to see it.

Just don't crash on my grave.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

If you are under 60 you’ll likely see it

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Once that is proven they will reduce responsibilities for the single crew until the plane is fully automated.

Once the fully automated flight is trusted and proven they will remove the single pilot.

There's a middle step isn't there? Where there are real human pilots that are sitting at a remote location on the ground somewhere doing the actual flying. We have this with military drone pilots already. I have to imagine it would be far easier to implement this than full AI. You still get 70% of the benefit of "pilotless" flights because you don't have to get the human geographically to the place the plane is flying.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Wouldn't lag be an issue, given electronic attenuation, even at speed-of-light? Maybe not since drone pilots manage? Damned interesting thought you have.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yes to speed-of-light limitations for latency, but again, the military is already doing things while also firing precision weapons from the same platform halfway around the world. My guess is that the systems are mostly autonomous except the humans issue short term commands. Like:

  • plane, turn left bearing 180.
  • turning left bearing 180, my bearing is 180
[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago) (1 children)

[Pedantry Incoming!]

  • heading.

"Bearing" is a direction from one specified position (i.e. the airplane) to a specified object. You would tell a pilot that there is an airport bearing 180, or traffic bearing 090. "Bearing" just tells the pilot which way something is.

"Heading" is the direction the nose of the aircraft is pointed. If you want a pilot to fly due south, you will tell them to fly a heading of 180.

(Heading is not necessarily the actual direction of flight: it does not take crosswinds into account. "Course" is the word used to describe the direction the plane is actually going.)

[Pedantry Complete!]

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 20 minutes ago

That isn't pedantry. This is valuable information! Thanks for the correction.

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 1 points 9 hours ago

It's going to take about 15 years.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Then they'll have a robot in the cockpit with googly eyes so kids like it, just like those robots at the grocery store.