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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 210 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Dude was wearing a 20lb chain while his wife was getting an MRI.

She freaked, and yelled for him, and he ran into the room while the machine was still on and fucking died.

This is 100% their fault, I could almost see an argument that the door needs a lock to prevent idiots with 20l s of metal around their neck from running in, but you don't want to lock everyone out in case there's an issue.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 60 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You could put an airlock like metal detector door that only opens the second door, if the first door is closed and there's nothing magnetic inside. People could still go in quickly in emergencies, but nothing that makes it worse can enter.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 55 points 5 days ago (3 children)

As much as the machines cost, something like that wired up with a metal detector so that if the machine is on and there's metal in the airlock it will never open would actually be a good solution....

But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money. Because like someone else pointed out, the hospital ain't the one paying to fix the machine.

Maybe Canada would be interested?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 40 points 5 days ago

This basically never happens. You want to spend billions guarding against humanity stupidity? Good luck with that.

But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money.

🙄

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

MRI’s are still plenty dangerous when they aren’t scanning(“on”). The magnets don’t ever turn off unless you release all the helium which is typically a last resort. They can do it slowly for servicing but it’s costly or rapidly for emergencies but it usually trashes things.

Seems like the simplest solution is having a locking observation booth. Family can watch from the booth or go to the waiting room. This doesn’t prevent staff from responding to anything and actually keeps the family out of the way if there is an emergency. No high tech gizmos required. Are they go to like it? Probably not. Then off to the waiting room.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the info!

Honestly tho, it's pretty crazy they let dude roam around a hospital with 20lbs of chain around his neck. That's literally a deadly weapon.

I don't care what story he gave, he should have been told to leave it in his vehicle.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago

i wonder if he had neck pain, to carrying that much weight on his neck.

[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago

idk, maybe the hospital has insurance for idiocy. But the people that broke it almost certainly can't afford an MRI machine, so they ain't paying.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 34 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You could spend billions to implement crazy solutions for every possible scenario.

Or you could just tell the guy not to go in there.

[–] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

“When you make something idiot-proof, the world builds a better idiot.”

[–] Scrawny@reddthat.com 7 points 5 days ago

You can idiot proof anything but the world just makes better idiots

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did you forget that thousands of hospitals exist just in the US? Or at least did before 2025.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not all of them have MRI machines, and regardless of its cheaper than repairing them.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hundreds probably do though. I don't know. I've never heard of anything like this happening. I think it's probably exceedingly rare. I had an MRI and the number of times I heard and read the warnings about metal was exhausting. It feels almost impossible that someone could not know about that specific danger.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.

"I have no idea what I'm talking about so I'll just assume everything is cheap and easy"

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nah, let them stupids die. I don't want to risk non idiots lives for the chance of saving a moron.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I apologize if im completely misunderstanding, but what "non idiots" are at risk, in what circumstances? Shouldn't there always be a tech?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No apology necessary.

There are emergencies that could happen anywhere, including in an MRI room. Dealing with emergencies, ease of ingress and egress is paramount.

The proposed solutions would hamper access to these rooms during emergencies, putting patients and techs in harms way (the non idiots), in the name of preventing a moron from giving themselves a Darwin award.

I think it would be a net negative, ie. more people would die/get hurt trying to make an idiot proof enclosure.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 43 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Just for your information, the machine, meaning the magnet, is ALWAYS on.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Unless something gets stuck. Then it is shut down and restarted after the thing is removed. Takes hours though, I think the startup was four hours.

They had that happen at the hospital my father worked at, the cleaning lady brought in a stool with steel legs. They tried to remove it by force first, but four men could not do it.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Takes hours and is horrifically expensive.

Huh, I thought this was nonsense, but googling proved you're right. Very cool TIL!

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Surely dialed down in between scans?

[–] saimen@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago

No. They are usually superconducting magnets in persistent mode:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_magnet

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 5 points 4 days ago

No it is only turned off during maintenance or by an emergency kill switch.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I’m just thinking about the poor woman. She’s forever going to be haunted with the knowledge that she was the one who called him into the room, and thus led to his death. His decision to come in wasn’t thought out, but that probably won’t relieve her feelings of guilt for having called him in. Such a tragic story.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago

Uh she was in the room likely still on the bed laying down considering the story given. So like she'll have some rowdy memories of dude getting mushed into a machine a speed then slowly suffocate if they weren't lucky enough to hit their head really really fucking hard.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

There is a lot of conflicting information in the articles im finding about this incident, from her shouting and him running in to him entering the room with the technician, and the technician knew about the chain and had commented on it.

Lmk if you need some examples, but theres a lot.

Im (cynically) inclined to believe that the hospital were the first to give statements and did a quick its-not-our-fault response. Then more people were interviewed. Ill always side with the working class (imo everyone who is not ruling class) rather than the corporations. And in the US the hospital is a corporation for sure.

There's some gross racial spin surrounding this too, see pic below. It was a weighted padlock steel necklace for his weight training, not whatever is implied by yahoo.

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[–] Bot@sub.community 9 points 5 days ago

Don’t forget to pay the repairing fee for the machine

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 8 points 5 days ago

Metal detector on the door to the room.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That door should absolutely be locked while in operation. That door being forced open should be an e-stop event.

Someone could walk in there with a firearm or a bowey knife or anything.

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Then the door will always be locked, unless the MRI is being serviced, as the magnet is always active. Kinda kills the point of the machine, no? That said they could put in more safeguards for sure. Though you would think all the signs on and near the door, and the extensive explanation you get, would be enough. But here we are.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

No, signs aren't enough obviously. This is definitely not the first time we've heard of stories of people coming in with guns, chairs what have you.

It's not everyday, so maybe it's not warranted... But if you look at the things we apply security to we secure against a lot of things that never happen

Given the apparent danger of the device. There's still plenty of options for security.

How about a set of man trap doors and a metal detector. The outside pair is unlocked. When you step through the metal detector, If a safe amount of metal is detected the outside door is locked and the inside doors unlock.

You don't need a very sensitive metal detector The extra construction around two doors, and a small door controller / locks would be super insignificant to the price of the machine.

If you use cam locks the emergency egress would still be fine. Maybe you'd need to sense the outer door being shut to make sure somebody doesn't hold the door for someone else.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

Where does it say he ran in? I mean, what you say sounds right, but this doesn't read like "freaking out"

Edit: Sounds like she did not freak out, but called to him to help her stand up after it was complete (bad knee), but before he was authorized to enter. This seems more like an honest mistake and tragedy. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/20/health/mri-machine-death-long-island