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[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 20 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe the USA should heavily invest in the industry of the USA, just like China does, in order to keep up? No, then USian companies would have oversight & have to meet expectations, and we all know that they wouldn’t want that.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

That would require companies roll profits back into development and their employees instead of pocketing it all, schemes like stock buybacks and wall st traders.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I hate that the US is like this. People would EASILY pay more for American if the quality was there. But ffs they don’t even try anymore. They just make slop and expect us to pay more for it.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Which sucks because I did use to think that “Made in the USA” meant better quality.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 4 hours ago

Were you born in 1960 or something? That hasn't been true for 50+ years

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (5 children)

Also labor price is unmatched. Nobody would work for the wage they give to children in China, so you can't really go that much cheaper while not sacrificing safety.

Not saying Chinese cars are that well made.

[–] Flagg76@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Very few children work in china right now, Chinese workers even have 5 days of vacation a year by law.

That's 5 more than the US....

There were probably more children working on farms in the US than in china, and I remember something about Florida wanting to reinstate child labour again?

[–] fergrg@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 hours ago

Yes, there may not be child labor. But in places we cannot see, there are still black industry chains. A brick factory was exposed some time ago. They let some people with low IQ or disabilities work. They were not given masks, and the air was full of dust. They may work more than ten hours a day or even more. What is the difference between this and slavery? I just want to give this example to illustrate that there are still many black-hearted factories in society, and there is also the possibility of employing child labor. In China, young people who have not studied will choose to work in factories, but they must be at least 16 years old. If they are younger, they will not be hired. Back to the issue of BYD, although we are proud that it can be recognized by the world as a Chinese brand, and many people in China also buy it. But recently there have been some news that they blindly work overtime within the company, and have meetings after get off work, etc. Someone exposed the chat records within the company. We are all ordinary people. We just want to fight for our rights. Even if it is a big company, as long as it exploits people, we must oppose it.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Like we don't have child labor here in the good ol' USA.

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

China has compulsory education for children just like America. There's no child labor in China.

They pay adult workers less in China, but these yuan has 7x buying power than the dollar in China

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 15 hours ago

That's what Chinese propagandists want you to think, there are way more people living in (borderline) poverty (per capita) than in the US.

Social media is being fed with a slice of mainland China, but anything beyond that is people struggling to keep ends meet.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They're being pretty ruthless about grabbing all the world's resources to make them as well.

[–] Flagg76@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

No the rest of the world has been sleeping when China silently bought all the mines and harbors in the past decades.

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

If our CEOs and business leaders are supposedly the world's best, why didn't they spent their capital shutting China down instead of their lavish lifestyles and payouts for their wealthy stockholders? I guess they aren't as good at running businesses as they claim to be.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 points 4 hours ago

China is performing a new colonialism. Exploiting poor countries for their cheap resources.

While the rest of the world is trying to steer away from it because it is so horrible. So please, don't praise China for it.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

That’s true, but we could subsidize the cost of labor too. People make a living wage, but the company pays less than that because government covers the difference.