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You can recycle plastic.
No. This is a myth perpetuated by huge companies who create a lot of single use plastic.
There isn't a type of plastic in existence that can be recycled without degrading in quality. A plastic bottle cannot be used to create a new bottle. This is why less than 5% of plastic waste is actually recycled.
That’s just categorically false. Trash Panda Disc Golf does a video on just that myth. The problem with recycling has nothing to do with degradation. It has to do with economics. New plastic is cheap. Reusing plastic isn’t.
Uh huh. I have also watched videos and read articles supporting what I just said. Scotch tape is a great example because it's so brittle... almost useless for any application other than temporarily taping paper to something. It shows how weak plastic gets when it's recycled.
Trash Panda isn’t an article, they’re a disc golf manufacturer that solely uses recycled plastic. They’ve tested with recycling the exact same plastic more than ten times. And I have no clue what you are talking about with scotch tape, it’s literally designed to be tearable, just like the Costco bag in the picture….
Okay, so this one frisbee company disputes the countless articles published with sources about how plastic degrades when it's recycled and... you expect me to just go with that instead of NPR articles.
I doubt the demand for frisbees is high enough to be an encompassing solution for our plastic problem, but I like the idea.
I didn't say it can. You can still recycle it, just not into the same product.
Into what? Scotch tape? 2 by 4's for decking material? One can only make so much of those things before the low demand is met.
Like I said, almost none of it gets recycled because the resulting products are too weak. Not only that, but plastic "recycling" is one of the primary ways that micro plastics get into our bodies.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/05/yet-another-problem-with-recycling-it-spews-microplastics/
They should use it as filler for potholes. Fibers would composite into stronger flexible quieter roads....or sobI dare to guess.
I would think that could work from a structural point of view, but they would have to seal it somehow to prevent more microplastics from being created. Plastics aren't often used as a building material because of toxic off-gassing, but of course this would be outside which would mitigate the issue.
Asphalt is one of the most recyclable materials in existence, when they tear up an asphalt road they just melt it down and pour it back on. If there was plastic involved it would probably interrupt this process.
But I'm not expert. Maybe it would work.
Literally asphalt is junk plastic/petroleum. It dissolves or mixes with plastic at melting temp. Or even if there was no thermal action, the plastic in fiber form would just get incorporated into the melt.
although there are ongoing experiments for this, results aren't promising.
standard road asphalt contains recycled tires for their elasticity and longevity. there have been cases where plastics have been used in the formation of walking/bike paths, but recent investigations have discovered an inordinate amount of microplastics have found their way into watersheds in the vicinity of these paths.
sometimes a bad product is a bad product. due to the hubris of oil companies they continue to market and sell these products as "recyclable" when in reality the process of recycling them is a costly and complicated solution that has been proven within the confines of a lab test.
it took the US 70 years to identify and stop using lead based paints in home construction. it was replaced with...you guessed it, oil based paints that contain plastics. we're currently running up to 60 years on that. I wonder what the next big thing will be?
You should check out asphalt. When it rains you can see a slick of oil coming off of it. Its literally tar.
https://www.asphaltmagazine.com/understanding-how-tires-are-used-in-asphalt/
it's all petroleum based. my point is that oils aren't left behind in our bodies, solid plastics are.
Incorrect. Petroleum is totally worse. While people have so far found plastics in our testicles, eyes and brains, petroleum contains benzene, toluene, and xylene which are readily absorbed by the body and are known carcinogens and liver killers...fatty liver? Diabetes? Cirrhosis? Cancer, sterilization, immunosuppression.
Plastics release plasticizers like BPA which are carcinogenic but ever so much more slowly than if you just drank water that sipped from a road next door.... Or your roof, we're so stupid, the most popular place to use tar is our roofs....
Anyway, petroleum is immediately toxic and terrible for the environment. The water from roads is called runoff. That masks the fact that it contains all roof and road petroleum toxin residue from every roof and road...yey fish!
Highly dependent on where you live and what the capabilities of the recycling facility are.
True.