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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 163 points 3 days ago (6 children)

But Cuomo tried very hard to turn it into a referendum on Mamdani’s views on Israel and Palestine—and the media establishment took the bait.

It's weird this is an issue in a mayoral campaign in the USA. The role has no foreign policy authority whatsoever, and Palestine/Israel is 5700 miles from NYC.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 128 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

He’s about to raise taxes on ~350k millionaires, while increasing wages and lowering the cost of groceries and rent. It’s everything Trump promised in his campaign, but he’s doing it the exact opposite way.

When it works, Trump is gonna look like a dick, and the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.

What's that old saying like "none are so blind as those who will not see"? I feel like people are so emotionally invested in "socialism bad, democrats bad" that it's going to be hard for them to accept contradicting that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. We are talking about dumbasses that like the ACA, but hate "Obamacare" - which apparently has "death panels"....

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

The insurance companies are the death panels.

[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's definitely true for many Republicans, but I think a successful term as mayor for Zohran has potential to really change things for the Democrats. If, after hearing from establishment Democrats for decades that the only way we can change things is so incrementally, not only can we not make progress, but we actually have to accept going backwards pretty often, you have a mayor who delivers some fairly sweeping changes, it could open the eyes of many Democrat voters to the lies that they've been fed by party leadership to excuse themselves for sitting on their hands while things fall apart around them.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 days ago

I think there's some truth to this. Specifically, a lot of people are sort of reflexively conservative. That is, they don't like change. If zohran gets free bus fare in, a lot of people who fight it now will fight to keep it.

I think some famous conservative said something once about how they can't let social programs get in because people like them too much.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (12 children)

It won’t work because, like every socialist system everywhere, capitalists will seek to undermine and interfere.

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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Trump is already deeply unpopular in NYC, so it’s not likely to change anything on the national stage. New Yorkers have been seeing Trump’s BS on parade for decades now. It won’t change New York’s opinion of Trump.

Nationally, it might. But that’s only if the media actually runs with it; The big news orgs are all in bed with the established politicians, so they’ll likely be smearing him left and right to avoid having it turn into a national shift.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

he can propose a tax raise but it still has to get through state legislators and the governor. i dunno about the rent and grocery stores. I'm all for this guy but he's going to need everyone's help making any real changes. i really hope we see it happen!

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Rent-stabilized apartments already exist in NYC. They are subject to regulations, so prices can be bureaucratically frozen.

He has proposed city-owned grocery stores, that would save money on rent and property taxes, forcing competitive pricing on groceries in NYC, and reducing the insane inflation rates we see. During the bird flu, eggs hit $13/dozen, for example.

He’s also looking to increase the city minimum wage to $30/hr, and make the city bus free for residents.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

New York City has its own income taxes.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

that aren't set by the mayors office, but the state

edit: so many confidently incorrect people responding to me, bug off. bunch of argue bros trying to google their way to being right. Albany and the governor are involved in what he wants to do, the governor has already addressed this, he has already addressed this, idk what to tell you loons. blocking any more reply guys.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That’s incorrect. The New York City Council sets the NYC property and income tax rates. Taxes are collected by NYS.

https://www.nyc.gov/site/taxcommission/about/about-the-nyc-tax-commission.page

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

i don't think your link says what you are pushing but i'm done arguing about it, have a nice day!

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The existing one is set by the state, but I'm not aware of anything precluding the city for introducing its own. They wouldn't be set by the mayor's office as mayors don't actually make laws, but I don't see how this is a state matter. Certainly none of the coverage about it has said it's ultimately up to Hochul.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

idk what to tell you except that this is very easy to verify. NYC city taxes are set by the state and the governor has to approve them as currently set up. Hochul the democratic governor has already said she isn't interested in this plan so it's a fight. I'm not interested in discussing it with you any further have a nice day.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago

Yes, but you're talking about the current taxes. Is there a law saying they can't institute additional taxes themselves? Because the proposed tax is an entirely separate thing and unless that's precluded by law the existing tax doesn't really matter. Adams had to go through the state because he wanted to reduce the existing tax.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

If he does. He hasn't done anything yet.

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[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There's a huge Jewish population in NYC, and many mistakenly assume that all of them support what Israel is doing. To a lot of people Judaism=Zionism.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Even if that assumption were correct, the mayor of NYC cannot meaningfully aid or hinder Israel's actions. A politician's position on an issue far outside the scope of the office they're seeking doesn't usually influence my vote.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

The oligarchs can't win on the merits of their policies, so they desperately resort to identity politics to try to divide us.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 days ago

There might be some things the mayor could do, like joining boycotts, etc.

Certainly he can stop or interfere with the crackdown on pro-palestinian dissent in the city which has been extreme under Adams and Trump.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A politician's position on an issue far outside the scope of the office they're seeking doesn't usually influence my vote

You're probably the minority on that

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

That would be interesting to find out.

[–] mcv@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

That's a weird assumption. Many Jews strongly oppose it, including Bernie Sanders, Jon Stewart, Ben and Jerry from the ice cream, and probably millions of less famous Jews.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago

Plus, Israel is super unpopular right now. Mainstream media and establishment politicians don't get this. The more they criticize Mamdani for his lack of allegiance to Israel, the more people will vote for him!

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Yeah the most bizarre thing to me was seeing the debate and hearing a question about foreign nation visits

Like wtf is a city mayor doing visiting other countries and why would we care

That was super weird. It was trying to bait out mamdani and other progressive views about Israel but man what a word question for a mayoral race

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

NYPD has a field office in Kfar Saba. So, possibly more pertinent than it should be.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well there's my surprising fact of the day.

Looks like it's just one officer, but it seems like they could do outreach and intelligence sharing without someone permanently stationed there.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

NYPD has offices all around the globe. Because... 9/11 or something.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

New York has a big Jewish population.