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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 170 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The smear campaign against Zohran Mamdani isn't over, and won't be over for as long as he's in politics, and then a little after.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Definitely not over. Assuming he wins the election, I would anticipate a lot of sabotage stemming from establishment politicians and public servants. If they can't win this election, they'll want to make his term as mayor as discordant and ineffectual as possible, to make it easier for a more conservative/establishment candidate to win the next one.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Which is why I think everyone celebrating his victory are being naively premature

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Progress is still something to celebrate. Without the first step, the others cant follow

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[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

They’ll attack him in the history books. The banks put Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 162 points 3 days ago (6 children)

But Cuomo tried very hard to turn it into a referendum on Mamdani’s views on Israel and Palestine—and the media establishment took the bait.

It's weird this is an issue in a mayoral campaign in the USA. The role has no foreign policy authority whatsoever, and Palestine/Israel is 5700 miles from NYC.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 128 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

He’s about to raise taxes on ~350k millionaires, while increasing wages and lowering the cost of groceries and rent. It’s everything Trump promised in his campaign, but he’s doing it the exact opposite way.

When it works, Trump is gonna look like a dick, and the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

the nation will see that democratic socialism will get them what they were promised.

What's that old saying like "none are so blind as those who will not see"? I feel like people are so emotionally invested in "socialism bad, democrats bad" that it's going to be hard for them to accept contradicting that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. We are talking about dumbasses that like the ACA, but hate "Obamacare" - which apparently has "death panels"....

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

The insurance companies are the death panels.

[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's definitely true for many Republicans, but I think a successful term as mayor for Zohran has potential to really change things for the Democrats. If, after hearing from establishment Democrats for decades that the only way we can change things is so incrementally, not only can we not make progress, but we actually have to accept going backwards pretty often, you have a mayor who delivers some fairly sweeping changes, it could open the eyes of many Democrat voters to the lies that they've been fed by party leadership to excuse themselves for sitting on their hands while things fall apart around them.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (12 children)

It won’t work because, like every socialist system everywhere, capitalists will seek to undermine and interfere.

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[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trump is already deeply unpopular in NYC, so it’s not likely to change anything on the national stage. New Yorkers have been seeing Trump’s BS on parade for decades now. It won’t change New York’s opinion of Trump.

Nationally, it might. But that’s only if the media actually runs with it; The big news orgs are all in bed with the established politicians, so they’ll likely be smearing him left and right to avoid having it turn into a national shift.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

he can propose a tax raise but it still has to get through state legislators and the governor. i dunno about the rent and grocery stores. I'm all for this guy but he's going to need everyone's help making any real changes. i really hope we see it happen!

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Rent-stabilized apartments already exist in NYC. They are subject to regulations, so prices can be bureaucratically frozen.

He has proposed city-owned grocery stores, that would save money on rent and property taxes, forcing competitive pricing on groceries in NYC, and reducing the insane inflation rates we see. During the bird flu, eggs hit $13/dozen, for example.

He’s also looking to increase the city minimum wage to $30/hr, and make the city bus free for residents.

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[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There's a huge Jewish population in NYC, and many mistakenly assume that all of them support what Israel is doing. To a lot of people Judaism=Zionism.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Even if that assumption were correct, the mayor of NYC cannot meaningfully aid or hinder Israel's actions. A politician's position on an issue far outside the scope of the office they're seeking doesn't usually influence my vote.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

The oligarchs can't win on the merits of their policies, so they desperately resort to identity politics to try to divide us.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 days ago

There might be some things the mayor could do, like joining boycotts, etc.

Certainly he can stop or interfere with the crackdown on pro-palestinian dissent in the city which has been extreme under Adams and Trump.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A politician's position on an issue far outside the scope of the office they're seeking doesn't usually influence my vote

You're probably the minority on that

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

Plus, Israel is super unpopular right now. Mainstream media and establishment politicians don't get this. The more they criticize Mamdani for his lack of allegiance to Israel, the more people will vote for him!

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Yeah the most bizarre thing to me was seeing the debate and hearing a question about foreign nation visits

Like wtf is a city mayor doing visiting other countries and why would we care

That was super weird. It was trying to bait out mamdani and other progressive views about Israel but man what a word question for a mayoral race

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

NYPD has a field office in Kfar Saba. So, possibly more pertinent than it should be.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well there's my surprising fact of the day.

Looks like it's just one officer, but it seems like they could do outreach and intelligence sharing without someone permanently stationed there.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

NYPD has offices all around the globe. Because... 9/11 or something.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 98 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But they just keep making him more cool.

zohranthedestroyer.com

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Damn website won't load

Prolly a good sign!

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

It just goes to his campaign page. But yes, a good sign.

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[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

Seriously. It's not "failed"; it's in full fuckin' swing.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't he still have to win the general? So we'll see if it failed or not.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In New York, the Dem primary is MUCH more competitive than the general against (perennial loser and hyper-racist vigilante) Curtis Sliwa and whichever dross failed to achieve the backing of one of the parties but are still rich and/or corrupt enough to afford running anyway.

Other than Sliwa, his opponents will be a corrupt as fuck compulsive liar who was probably days from being sentenced to prison when he decided to pledge his allegiance to the Mango Mussolini without joining the GOP, and possibly the sex offender he just beat.

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are we expecting the Democratic party to actually support him? Seems the national leadership would rather see someone else in his spot.

I for one am DEFINITELY not, no.

Will be interesting to see what they do tbh, since Cuomo has already lost to him once and the other two candidates are openly sucking up to the Mango Mussolini. Makes endorsing anyone quite the tricky proposition..

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[–] BubbaGumpsBackLumps@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Remember when trump invited the taliban to camp david...

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Bruh, no, I didn't remember until you posted this. Holy shit. It's been a longass 10 years.

[–] pawnfuture@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Failed? It's been less than a week. They're threatening to denaturalize and deport him. Sounds like they're very frightened.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There's no smear they could've done that's worse than what Cuomo had going on.

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[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Am Jewish, am native New Yorker, no longer live there, would vote Mamdani. Fuck Israel.

[–] alexc@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

OK, so next it’ll be the an entrapment operation? And then maybe an assassination?

I mean, if history is our guide…

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 12 points 3 days ago (4 children)

On the one hand I'm surprised, but on the other I'm not since most political consultants are fucking out of touch idiots, but I think they were lazy and went for the more recent "hate Palestine or you're an antisemite" bit and found it didn't work.

Next I'm worried they're going to use the much more effective "defund the police makes you unsafe" bit and lean heavier into the "communist" game, if he doesn't get deported first of course... I'm very happy he won the primary, but I have very little faith he's going to win the general election unfortunately :/

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Have a little faith, he's the heavy favorite. The city's unions and politicians are in the process of rallying around him, while his opponents are all jokes who likely won't get as many votes combined as Zohran.

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It was similar to Jeremy Corbyn (I'm not arguing he's perfect) where they didn't think he could beat Labour as an independent

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

it's not and it hasn't... keep fighting until he is mayor and starts enacting what he is promising

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