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I saw the Tesla Robotaxi:

  • Drive into oncoming traffic, getting honked at in the process.
  • Signal a turn and then go straight at a stop sign with turn signal on.
  • Park in a fire lane to drop off the passenger.

And that was in a single 22 minute ride. Not great performance at all.

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[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we're gonna let them on the road, I say that software should get points just like a driver, but when it gets suspended all the cars running that software get shut down.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How about we leave the driving to people, and not pre-alpha software?

There's no accountability for this horribly dangerous driving, so they shouldn't be on the road. Period.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

There's no accountability for this horribly dangerous driving, so they shouldn't be on the road. Period.

Well that's exactly what their post was about, adding accountability.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Was it? I didn't read a single hint of adding accountability in the article.

But that begs the question: shouldn't accountability be in place now, and not maybe at some point in the distant future? They are already on the road.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Not the article, the post from njordamir that you were directly replying to.

shouldn't accountability be in place now,

Again literally what that user was suggesting

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, Ok.

I agree with accountability, but not with the point system. That's almost like a "three strikes" rule for drunk drivers.

That's not really accountability, that's handing out free passes.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's almost like a "three strikes" rule for drunk drivers.

Oh man, that would be amazing. If after 3 strikes, all drunk driving could be eliminated... If only we could be so lucky.

He's not talking about a per-vehicle points system, he's talking about a global points system for Tesla inc. If after a few incidents, essentially Tesla FSD had it's license revoked across the whole fleet, I mean, that's pretty strict accountability I'd say. That's definitely not handing out free passes, it's more like you get a few warnings and a chance to fix issues before the entire program is ended nation wide.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, if they weren't as buggy as they clearly already are, then sure... do a point system.

But as they stand, they shouldn't be on the road.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't understand the complaint. I mean given their track record, with a system like this, they wouldn't be on the road.

You know, unless it all worked.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean given their track record

That's my point. Tesla (the company) has been notorious for pushing forward their deadly "self-driving" technology. It's one of the worst automated systems on the planet, with plenty of tests, reports, and real-world incidences to raise red flags all over the place.

They SHOULD NOT be on the road, so are they only on the road because Musk was able to influence someone?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You seem really invested in making sure Teslas are off the road, but not at all interested in regulation that would keep all dangerous autonomous vehicles off the road. So... do you work for BMW, or Waymo?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Tesla vehicles are specifically singled out, because as far as I know, they are the only autonomous vehicle that uses cameras instead of Lidar.

And the Tesla company has a habit of cover ups, falsifying or manipulating crash data, and fraud.

I don't trust any autonomous car on public roads, but some are considerably more trustworthy than Teslas.

FWIW, you can buy robot vacuums for your home with more advanced object detection than a robotaxi. 🫤