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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 28 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Do you really want Iran to have nukes though?

Just because Israel are horrible, doesn't automatically make the people they're fighting the good guys.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Honestly no but if I lived in a country or bloc without nukes myself I'd want my government to get them because its the only way to not get randomly regime changed whenever the US, UK or Russia feels like it. Totally understandable why they would want them.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Was Iran actually producing nuclear weapons?

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Iran has multiple enrichment sites, with a reported 83.7% pure U-235. Such purity is only needed for one thing, and it isn't nuclear power plants which typically only need 3%-5% U-235.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Haleu fuel is pretty common that’s enriched up to about 20%. Highly enriched fuel is still used for nuclear power on aircraft carriers that use 93% enriched U235.

Iran is definitely just trying to make weapons but wanted to at least give some examples of higher enriched fuels

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Being that we know Iran sells weapons to Russia, I wonder where it would be cheaper to produce weapons. Would it be cheaper for Russia to pay to have certain things created elsewhere or in Russia. We know a lot of Russia's weapons in the past were built in what now is Ukraine. Examples would be their Aircraft Carriers, destroyers, etc. Hell one of their main Aircraft Carriers was named Kiev

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Every credible comment I've read says they're in the process of developing them, the only group who says otherwise is Iran themselves.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org -4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

They havent been in the process of developing them. They have been enriching Uranium to the level needed for developing a nuclear weapon.

Iran has always been "close" to develop nuclear weapons over the past years, to ensure that it can do so to defend itself in the case of an attack. Now with Israels unprecedented attack, it is more likely that Iran sees the need to actually develop a nuke to protect its existence.

Israel knows this and keeps pushing to quickly get the US involved beyond a point of no return and fight the war against Iran for them.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They have been enriching Uranium to the level needed for developing a nuclear weapon.

Isn't that part of the process though?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It is a prerequirement.

If you produce thick steel sheets, that is a requirement to build tanks, but it doesnt mean you are building tanks.

Now if you start welding those sheets together in a tank shape, while making all the other stuff that you find in a tank, now you are building a tank.

So if Iran starts building specific parts for nukes and processing the enriched Uranium in a way that is suitable for making a warhead, that would be building a nuke.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So if Iran starts building specific parts for nukes and processing the enriched Uranium in a way that is suitable for making a warhead, that would be building a nuke.

Which is precisely what they're doing, unless you actually believe they want that level of enrichment for a power plant.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

No matter how many tires you are stockpiling, you aren't manufacturing a car, unless you actually manufacture a car.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 3 points 10 hours ago

Israels attack follows a report from the IEAE stating that Iran has likely started the race to a bomb. They (Iran) have also recently expelled UN oversight from their enrichment sites.

I’m not defending Israel but what does that look like to you? Sure seems like for some people their hatred for Israel is clouding their objective judgement.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social -4 points 17 hours ago

From all available intelligence, no. They clearly have a nuclear weapons program (which are insanely huge to begin with) but there has never been a measured test, and no evidence of enriched uranium at a high enough purity to be weaponized.

It's insanely hard work to created weaponized enriched uranium. With the sanctions Iran has had for decades it would be next to impossible for them to get all the stuff they need to create it on their own.

[–] Renohren@lemmy.today 1 points 10 hours ago

Hasn't Iran a religious edict stating they cannot build or use nukes? We could be in a iraki WMD phase again (expecting Powell's jar to appear any moment now).

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -4 points 15 hours ago

If the country who drop two has it, why not?