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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It must be nice to have the privilage to immigrate to wherever you want lol.

I mean I wasn't even supposed to be here. It's only pure chance that my family had relatives in the US. Less than 5% of Chinese live abroad, so... like imagine you ask a question like: "How many of you are actually fine with living in China"

I mean the wording implies that people living there are automatically supportative of the government or something.

Moving is hard, pal.

I had the advantage of being a child and learning English; now as an adult, I'd struggle learning French, German, or Norweigian.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

You can do it. I learned Norwegian as an old man. Well, enough to get by. I still struggle, but it is possible.

[–] I_love_older_women@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I remember being a kid and feeling so proud that I had U.S. citizenship in addition to my Saudi one (my mom wanted to give birth in Los Angeles at Cedars-Sinai), because it meant I had access to a “free” country compared to my native Saudi Arabia. I never actually lived in the U.S., and I would absolutely never live there now, lol. Who knew that, after a while, both of my passports would belong to authoritarian countries? I moved to Amsterdam three years ago for my bachelor’s studies, and now I’m in Copenhagen for my master’s. At this point, I honestly wouldn’t want to live anywhere except Europe.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I mean you get to pick which flavor of authoritarianism to live in

Shot by cop, unhinged lunatics doing mass shooting?

Or public beheading?

:P

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Both are ruined by religious fanaticism.

[–] I_love_older_women@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Public beheading is the more metal option. Someone could take shots of my head and body right after the fact and turn them into a cool album cover, like what Mayhem did with Dead’s body after his suicide for the The Dawn of the Black Hearts bootleg.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Are you going to help me immigrate out of here? Will anyone on Lemmy?

For all the political posturing and holier than thou attitude I see on Lemmy not a single one of you would do anything to help me.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

My thoughts are why should I move? America the country is beautiful and bountiful. I'm not the one wrecking it. I'd rather work on cleaning up the mess than just tossing everything I've ever had.

People from other countries can mock, but a lot of what I see going on in the EU doesn't seem far behind or is in some ways worse. Chat control, anti-immigrant policies, and a rise in fascism over there as well.

At this point, I feel I'm still better off with the enemies I know.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago

I would even accept financial assistance for the extreme costs of the move. I’m generous like that.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

What would help look like? I could answer questions, help practice the language etc. But otherwise what could anyone do? I can't give you a job or a visa. My apartment isn't big enough to house someone. There just isn't too much us normal people can do.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 3 hours ago

I've read a lot of novels set in Germany/Europe in the Hitler Era.

I always used to be amazed at the people who would see what was going on, and who stayed.

One of my favorite series is the Bernie Gunther [Berlin Noir] novels by the late Phillip Kerr.

Bernie stays in Germany because he's a German. He was born and raised in Berlin and it's his home. No strong family ties, he just stays because he can't imagine living anywhere else.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

If I can afford to I'd love to leave the USA at some point.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I do like living in the USA. There is generally a reliability and safety that I haven't seen in many other places. There are big problems for sure, and being married to an immigrant is worrying at times. We absolutely have backup plans but so far we have not seriously considered leaving.

[–] KRAW@linux.community 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This question is asked as if there is an obvious destination. Where do I move? Europe/UK isn't exactly killing it lately, so that's out. That leaves Australia and NZ for English-speajing countries, but I know nothing about them. I could move to Japan since I know some Japanese, but the Japanese are not well-known to be accepting of foreigners. The PM is literally trying to limit immigration. So where should I be moving as an American?

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Canada is right next door

[–] DeepThought42@lemmy.world 2 points 46 minutes ago

There are multiple reasons why most people don't shift countries willy-nilly.

Moving, even within the same state is a difficult, stressful, and expensive prospect. Moving to a different country is even more so, and that assumes you have a job lined up when you get there or substantial monetary reserves. Then there are the legal hurdles, which depending on the destination country can be downright daunting. In many countries unless you are a top earner with an in-demand skill-set you are likely to experience significant legal challenges to even achieve temporary residency. And then there are language and cultural differences that can make life difficult once you get there. Unless you have friends/family already in the destination country and/or know the language you can expect it to be rough going for quite a while.

All this would be compounded if you have a family. Not to mention the added difficulty and expense involved with visiting or supporting extended family members or friends back in your original home country after leaving.

Simply put, most people simply can't move countries whenever the political situation in their home country gets dicey. It's only after the fighting starts do you see people doing that in significant numbers and at that point they are refugees.

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago

Short answer is nope.

If you mean for political reasons, no, because unless Trump succeeded in creating dynasty that many people are talking about then there is hope that someone will step in and force the government back in the right direction. So this will be a temporary setback.

Now when I mean set it back in the right direction I don't mean back to the far left either, I mean I hope for a reasonable rational leader willing to work to a better future for all Americans. Both sides have lost what it means to work for all Americans as the president of the USA and not just their party extremists.

As an average low middle class American, life isn't terrible but economic insecurity and living costs are becoming a major issue that is directly connected to Trump. Cost is up 30% in the last year, privacy is under attack again, consumer protections are being stripped away, environmental protections are being removed, general infrastructure investments are being defunded, public relief and assistance being removed, AI is out of control, and there are fewer jobs being created. While Trump lies and tries to cover it up, he is actually firing people in the government or refusing to release negative data to the public in an effort to cover it up. He is actively silencing people which goes against a core American belief that this country was founded on.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 56 minutes ago

If the opportunity presents itself, then maybe.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 1 points 12 minutes ago

I have family here, I have a house here. I’ve built a life here.

Canada’s great but cold. Europe would require me to rebuild everything in my life. Plus, Europe is dealing with their own problems at the moment - its own rise of the right; the threat of Russia. In Australia, everything wants to kill you or cause you great pain, even the plants. South America seems enticing, but the US affords more opportunity for now, so maybe when I retire.

Everywhere you look, the deeper you look, you realize that everywhere has their own problems. Times change, seasons change. Right now we’re in a conservative phase. We’ve been here before. So instead, I’ll stand my ground and weather it out with the allies I have around me. I’d much prefer to be part of the resistance anyway.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 32 seconds ago

I guarantee you are getting a warped picture of what it's actually like to live here. I haven't noticed a change in my daily life based on who is president for my entire life.

Cue all the boring-ass comments like "you must be priviliged," "you're clearly not black," "how nice for you that you aren't a government employee."

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 0 points 3 hours ago

I am fine with it, if they stay there, because I don't live there ; -)

(Ok ok, someone has got to resist the clown some time or other - just not sure if they are already born who are able to)