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It's something I struggle with. Some bad news comes out about some public persona doing something shitty and they get cancelled. But sometimes I really struggle with giving up the things they've made because I like them. There are also occasions where the person has been accused of something and it doesn't seem true to me, or I think they're genuinely sorry and have been punished enough, and the context isn't being considered.

What do you think? Who do you feel conflicted about enjoying?

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[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

Marilyn Manson, I like his music.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I do too. I pretty much hated all music made in the 90s; I think grunge is awful and so is NIN, but I felt like Manson was a natural extension of what bands like WASP and Motley Crue were doing but reinvented for that generation, and it's really good. I like music that has some concept and theater to it. I still listen to him.

I also like Die Antwoord; I think the accusations by their adopted son are total bullshit. I'm not saying they're good people and I do think they're homophobic, but also a lot of their image is obviously artificial and they obfuscate their true lives, it's clear from reading their interviews. I think they're genuinely average middle aged parents from South Africa, and I think what Ninja said about their son making accusations was to try to get money from them is true. I really dig their crazy music and their videos are insane.

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I am with you about Grunge, I never understood the appeal for Nirvana and I think the accolades should go to the Screaming Trees and Alice and Chains. My favorite Manson album is Mechanical Animals. I know what you mean about Die Antword, the kid they adopted is an addict and I view him as an unreliable source.

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I always had a weird feeling about MSI mindless self indulgence. Now all doubt is removed....

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Ha he is crusty.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Scott Adams. Author of the "Dilbert" comics.

Such an extraordinary humorist and brilliant thinker! Got canceled for political opinion, a few statements that were taken as racist, but which I guess >90% of Americans would get away with.

I nearly had to vomit when I learned how and why the media industry suddenly censored all the comics and everything else that he published.

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[–] thisisdee@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Justin Timberlake. I’m in my mid 30s now so I don’t follow celebrity gossip as much as I did in my tween years but from what I’ve seen he didn’t do anything too bad? Felt more like it was cool to hate him cos he’s been famous for a bit but no longer at the top. But I still think he’s a fantastic performer and some of the new songs are great.

Kanye can be as insane as he wants to be, it doesn't make Yeezus and TLOP any worse. 🤷 TBF I live a somewhat minimalistic life and I don't buy albums or anything, haven't gone to a concert in almost two decades... but a bop is a bop.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Die Antwoord. The music tickles a particular part of my brain, but they're accused of some truly heinous shit.

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