Is it an open standard?
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China launches HDMI and DisplayPort alternative — GPMI boasts up to 192 Gbps bandwidth, 480W power delivery
(www.tomshardware.com)
To quote the article:
a Type-B that seems to have a proprietary connector and a Type-C that is compatible with the USB-C standard.
So its half proprietary. No thanks!
Half-owned by a Chinese company is wholly owned by the CCP
Most important question
Why not use the already open displayPort and make it better.
noo we need yet another standard!
Lock-in.
Displayport is an open standard in name only. The specs require membership in VESA, something that requires a hefty sum of money. Even open-source projects have to restrict code that implements Displayport because of the licensing restrictions imposed on the "open" standard.
Running that much power next to a data line sounds like a terrible idea for signal integrity, especially if something shorts to said data lines. It just sounds sketchy or filled with so many asterisks that it's functional impossible to reach their claimed throughput.
It's likely dc current which without the alternating magnetic fields will not degrade the signal as bad. But I whole heartedly agree with you on power delivery. What could possibly need/use that much power‽
The option to run one cable to the monitor, or reversely charge your laptop with one docking cable.
Maybe you could use this to daisy chain monitors and power them all.
The option to run one cable to the monitor, or reversely charge your laptop with one docking cable.
USB-C docks can already do this. Obviously with less power and it's not perfect by any means, but we don't need another technology for this. And sure, it's two cables, one from wall outlet to integrated dock/monitor and usb-c from dock to laptop, but no matter the technology you still need something to plug in to wall outlet.
Yeah, considering the recent VGA power connectors problems, what could possibly go wrong?
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Displayport and hdmi are either twisted pair or coaxial I think. Low frequency RF from 50hz AC shouldn't interfere with them, but high frequency changes in current on a power wire will.
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USB standard is up to what, 40Gbps and 240W? That's pushing the envelope already. We'll see if this new standard can prove itself, anyways.
USB4v2 can do 80Gbps and 240W.
It can also do 120Gbps/40Gbps asymmetric.
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Loved automobiles with 4 wheels? Chinese cars have 13! In your face suckers!
Imagine putting out a new high bandwidth cable standard in 2025 based on copper.
The sooner display and networking move to SFP, the better.
SFP? You mean the every device has slots to plug in different transceiver modules? I guess that would make it more future proof, but I think that will raise the cost, and might confuse ordinary people.
You have to think about the slot-transceiver compatibility and transceiver-medium compatibility then. Hmm... but I guess that would make it more transparent what is going on than having those chips embedded inside the cables, but not sure if we can leave them out, and require the end users to take care of thinking of all these compatibilities themselves or risk fire hazards.
yeah, I guess tvs and receivers would come with active optical cables to make it simpler, but the main thing is that optical is much cheaper and faster than copper once you get the economies of scale down on the transceivers. 1 terabit over 100km, down a cable thinner than a USB cable, is no problem with the right lasers. Meanwhile, I have interference and patent issues at 0.02tbps on hdmi cables less than a meter long.
Plenty of cheap optical HDMI cables out there, but they have compatibility issues. It would be so much easier with standard mmf mpo or SMF lc cables.
apalrd did review a unique product recently that embeds a mmf transceiver into the existing HDMI for factor, though.
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Not really that impressive since it seems to be about four times as wide as USB-C
So is HDMI? Smaller connectors aren't always better, and it's not like it's SCART size or something.
Even an 80” tv only uses around 150W, if my research is correct. Surely this must be thinking about massive displays.
If you’re gonna release a new standard, may as well have the headroom for future growth so it’s not outdated too soon in the future.
Your research would be incorrect
Yeah it was a quick google search. Do you have better numbers available?
Most manufacturers only list average power draw, but in HDR mode you can get much higher peak power useage.
This website also lists peak power draw for many TVs, in this example the Bravia 9 85 inch has a peak of 380W
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model-power-consumption/fca71198
Ah perfect, that makes a lot more sense to me
Now you can use one cable for two 80".
Won't this heat up like a mother fucker
It depends on the voltage used. If they run 48V which seems to be supported by USB-C EPR. Then the cable has to do the same 5A it's capable of doing today. Then the heat is the same.
When it comes to their own new connector/cable they can use even higher voltage or more/thicker conductors for power.
If it’s physically more stable and reliable than HDMI, then count me in
Power delivery by itself could be a useful standard for ebike and power station charging (battery to battery charging too). 480w is most I've seen, but maybe USB is working on better, or 240w and more flexible/cheaper cables can work. HDMI providing 54v output would be great for most common battery system charging, and dual/triple BMSs for 2x and 3x ports/charging would be awesome.
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