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It's wild just how much they're trying to shove AI down our throats.

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[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 234 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Incredible. What a shit idea.

Anyways, kids, remember: never let your smart devices talk to the internet. We actually love our LG OLED - it's fantastic hardware. But it has not once, and never will, get the chance to phone home.

[–] Sepix@feddit.org 12 points 18 hours ago (13 children)

But what do you use instead? The onboard apps work well and having two remotes always sucked.

[–] mcforest@feddit.org 71 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks to HDMI-CEC you can control additional media players with your TV's remote. Sometimes it might not be perfect for things like long presses and stuff, but for basic controls it works.

That's my experience with an Nvidia Shield and a Raspberry with KODI. I wouldn't really recommend the Raspberry though.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 30 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

So long as the GabeCube is at a decent price it is going to be my TV's media center. My old plan of building a new main rig and repurposing my old rig with an arc B580 upgrade went out the window for my budget when ram prices went through the roof.

[–] mcforest@feddit.org 12 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Just consider that Netfliix and Co. don't offer higher resolutions than 720p (?) on browsers that are not Edge (or does Chrome support it by now?). I really forgot the details because it's such a mess using them on Linux. But maybe you use other sources for movies anyways. Also if you need to use your browser for media streaming you might lose some benefits from CEC because you still control things with mouse and keyboard.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 14 points 17 hours ago

I have no qualms against paying for Netflix and getting their videos from other sources. If Netflix wants my viewing data, they can change their stance. Until then, Jellyfin with Jellyserr to handle requests will suffice. The Netflix app may just become a browse app if they don't accept the future.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

A separate box with apps that work better and just use the one remote.

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[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 14 points 18 hours ago

I only use the Nvidia Shield remote. It obviously does everything on the Shield, plus tv on/off, and volume. Then I remapped the Netflix button on it to open a little quick actions menu to select brightness/picture mode levels.

Haven't touched the lg remote since

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 14 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I use an Apple TV with mine. You can control the TV and soundbar from its one small remote.

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[–] VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip 78 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Who’s going to step up and start creating a “dumb” version of absolutely everything? One brand dedicated to just making the thing do the thing it absolutely must do and nothing else.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 36 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Would be great but the manufacturer would be at a disadvantage because that bundled bullshit effectively subsidizes the device. So you'd have to either raise prices or accept a lower profit margin.

Due to the high barrier of entry (e.g. because of patents) it's unlikely that a privately owned company can make a big market entry, especially across countries. And a public company will be forced by the shareholders to maximize profit so either you bundle crapware or they fire you as CEO.

Of course if you look outside the TV market such devices already exist. High-quality digital signage devices can easily be had – for about three times the price of an equivalently-sized TV.

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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 16 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Some premium brands like Bang & Olufsen sell TVs without adware, I think Panasonic TVs are mostly ad-free for now. Outside of that, most big brands will have "professional" or "commercial" product lines that also don't have ads. But in all cases you'll have to pay extra over the TVs subsidized by ads.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago

pay extra over the TVs subsidized by ads.

Let's be very clear, they are not and never were "subsidised by ads". Ads just became a new way to extract more money from customers.

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[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 65 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

My company received an email from Microsoft this week.

“From our data you are not selling Ai features as much as your competitors and we suggest that you start changing this or you will be left behind.”

It was a completely bullshit email. But the stupids at my company are now worried that Microsoft is tracking the features we’re selling with our computers. Like if that wasn’t the most glaring red flag “we have spent way too much money on this and we need you to prove we aren’t dumbasses” I don’t know what is.

I still will not sell Ai outside of its basic uses. And I’m backed up by the old heads in my department. Ai is not for everything.

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 25 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

One day, literally every Gsuite product immediately and incessantly started nagging us to use Gemini. Fortunately our tech staff quickly switched it all off. We have slowly been re-enabling features that are useful like meeting transcriptions. I just wish these corporations could have more restraint. In previous waves of improvement in tech, usage dictated investment in new products. These days, they seem to feel the need to coerce us to use their products as they insist we should. I think users are getting fatigued by this dynamic. I used to be the first to install every update and try new apps and products. These days, I'm excited when I can stop using a product, and I don't think it's just due to age. It means I can stop having to be vigilant about some company I know is searching for ways to exploit me.

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

If you root your lg oled you can truly block automatic updates. You can also install ad free youtube with sponsorblock integrated plus a bunch of other stuff that is of varying utility depending on your use case.

In general though just don’t connect it to the internet and get a $100 box for jellyfin from china (ugoos am6b+ works great and can playback basically anything but av1 natively if you flash Coreelec, the android side can still run streaming apps if you insist or iptv apps like tv mate since iptv support in kodi/jellyfin suuuucks).

Lg has proven they don’t respect consent by silently opting you in to data collection with updates. The updates never add features or bug fixes, just ugly UI changes and shit like this. It’s almost never worth updating unless someone is specifically saying “you should update, it fixes/adds ____

In the future don’t support them but at the same time it’s the “who the fuck can you support/oh you use an iphone under capitalism” problem. Yeah you don’t need a big tv, you don’t need an oled, you can buy a far more expensive commercial display, etc. I dunno

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 37 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

If you root your tv...

My brother in christ.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

You buy a $400-$3000 tv and eliminate big parts of the feature set (dlna, phone/laptop as remote, airplay/casting, etc) because you let their nonsense prevent you from connecting something you purchased to the internet so the vendor won’t ruin it.

Or you buy any other brand where rooting isn’t even an option and the ad penetration is often worse because they’re almost all based around amazon, androidtv, or Roku, all of which are much more developed and mature. With tricks like not allowing you to set a custom dns for Adblocking (Roku does this) or hard defining a cloudflare DNS to circumvent ad blocking dns if you set it at the router level (android does this).

If all the options are shit, make one that works

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 40 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

The controversy centers on a Reddit post in the r/mildlyinfuriating subreddit, where a user lamented the unexpected addition of Copilot following an automatic update. The post, which garnered thousands of upvotes and comments, describes the AI tool appearing as a non-deletable app on the TV’s interface.

"Widespread backlash" 🙄

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[–] ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world 37 points 15 hours ago

This, this finally made me reach back my LG TV and disconnected the Ethernet cable.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 35 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 32 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Then follows a class action lawsuit because the AI exposed children to unsuitable materials and the thing is gone the next update.

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[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 29 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

My next tv (don’t have one) is just gonna be attached to a laptop by hdmi. That’s it.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 37 points 12 hours ago (11 children)
[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

Holy shit, I had no idea that exists. My next TV will be a monitor with no internet access.

I'm in the process of making all our media sources and tech independent, starting with my dad's laptop. I've already set up easy remote access so I can always help him with anything. I am NEVER using mainstream shit from now on.

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[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 28 points 5 hours ago

This shit is why more people now have dabbled in DNS blocking and vlans. Its "your" equipment but you need to literally treat it as hostile.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Irony is LG has their own open weights AI: Exaone 32B.

https://huggingface.co/LGAI-EXAONE

It’s… not terrible. Especially for a multilingual, locally runnable one. But they gave it a license from the depths of hell, that even forbids reverse engineering and basically claims all its outputs, so no one uses it.

https://huggingface.co/LGAI-EXAONE/EXAONE-4.0.1-32B/blob/main/LICENSE

Anyway, I find it darkly hilarious that they choose to snub their own research, and their Tenstorrent partnership, and shove copilot in instead. How much you wanna bet they namedrop OpenAI in their earnings report?

This is corporate enshittification at its purest.

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[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

So glad I blocked my LG C1 from the internet ages ago. Haven't received updates in forever, don't care. It's a TV, it shows pictures. I even still have it LAN enabled so it can be controlled via Home Assistant automations, it just can never leave the home network, and that's how I like it.

I can't even remember how long ago I set it up to do this, I think it was when I heard rumor they'd be including ads in the UI, maybe 2023 or so.

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[–] Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It seems TV aren't even owner by the owners anymore. I don't watch TV nor game anymore but seeing the amount of ads when just turning on tvs at friends houses is wild and now with this it's doing way too much to just be a display. Whoever decides to start making dumb tvs again at mass with all the newer tech like hdr and dolby atmos in it will have a booming business but I guess no residuals after the sale no unlimited growth for investors.

[–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

For now, at least in Europe, I have removed every single ad on TV just buy going to the terms and conditions and not giving them consent. But I am using Samsung smart TV and I'm in Europe.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

Since it can't be LG anymore - what's a good TV screen for gaming?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The panels all come from two producers (really just one for the very good ones). So, pick whoever you can get the best deal on for your needed featureset and never connect it to the internet.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 14 points 9 hours ago

Also enable Game Mode which typically turns off some of the smart TV functions.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (21 children)

At some point we'd have to start importing TVs from the other side of the Great Chinese Firewall to avoid unwanted US tech. It's getting ridiculous.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 39 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

then you get unwanted chinese tech.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (14 children)

I got my mom an iPad, apparently AI is unavoidable in setup. To finish setup, you must agree to Apple AI.

They are all doing it together. I can't keep track of who owns what, perhaps "they" are all actually owned by the same megacorp.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

This can be turned off after setup.

It's stupid that this is the feature they decide to force considering using an Apple account during setup is still optional.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What does LG even get out of this?

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 37 points 13 hours ago

M$ is probably paying them handsomely for it.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

one of the many prices you pay letting a "Smart" TV connect to the internet.

[–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago (11 children)

Don't buy LG, noted. Also, maybe buying a dumb TV with great panel and then adding android fire stick that you can manage the way you want is the way all along?

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 12 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

How the fuck would you even use it on your TV?

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

You don't use it. It uses you.

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