Sorry Americams. I didnt really want to visit before you self-nazified. Certainly dont now.
this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2025
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Tourists to US would have to reveal five years of social media activity under new Trump plan
(www.theguardian.com)
No need to apologize. In fact, at this point, please stay away. Once tourism completely dries up, even more people will see how awful this situation is and begin resisting. All those rich cities and towns will realize we need to be a place people want to come to, and to do that, we need to be less awful in so many ways. The status quo is still not broken enough for too many people.
Uh yeah. I'll take Canada or Cuba, thanks.
What tourists?
The ones committing all these thought crimes!
And this is how all tourism to the US died
Just straight up a violation of the 4th Amendment, and if there are any legal repercussions for the content of your accounts, depending on the nature content and the consequences of it, could be violations of the 1st and 5th amendments. These constitutional rights cover every single man woman and child on US soil, even visitors. There is no way any of this is legal.
"Yeah, about that..." - US Supreme Court
At what point do these countries start reciprocating?
Start subjecting Americans (who can afford to go abroad) to the same bullshit we subject foreigners to and we might find support for the regime evaporating...
Never. European countries gain nothing from tourists going to USA. They get money from USA tourists coming to Europe. It's a win-win for Europe: more European tourists staying here while US tourists still coming to spend their money. Why fight it?
As an American that loves going to Europe for the unending culture and family relations through my partner, I hope they don’t do this. It’s the only light getting into America, the ones traveling outside of it and at minimum enlightening themselves enough to continue progressive mindsets inside the U.S.
You know, that might even be their goal.
But according to the article, these new hurdles will apply to visitors under the ESTA waiver also. And those are just as likely to be business travelers on short trips as they are full-on tourists.
Tell American executives that they can't enter Europe, even for a week, without surrendering their own social media history and then they get to experience actual consequences.
So all the business meetings will be happening in Europe. It's still a win for Europe. Governments rarely do things just to show people what it's like.
I don't mean to jump down your throat on this, my beef isn't with you. But I think it's attitudes like this that enable Fascist regimes to establish themselves.
If things continue to go badly here in the US then historians will view this as "appeasement". Not standing up against Fascism because it was more profitable that way.
Yeah, I'm not saying what I'm for or against, just saying what EU will do and why.
And I don't think anyone will see letting Americans in as an appeasement. By numbers most Americans are not MAGA so US wide ban would be unfair group punishment, you want to leave the door open for anyone who wants to escape US and punishing normal citizens will not change anything. EU is not in a position to fight US. They way to win is to stand your ground on human rights and work to become independent of American influence which EU is doing moderately good job at.
A fair number of those are people trying to flee the US. I was one of them, left at the first chance I could.
Honestly stop pussy footing and just issue a total embargo on the US as a whole, every base, territory, or ship included. No exceptions, if Air Force one pokes it's shitty head into any sovereign airspace it gets obliterated, if any American ships pop up on foreign shores then they're impounded and scrapped.
Treat us worse than the fucken Norks. This empire is collapsing regardless may as well speed it up a bit.
Yeah, go on, kill the entire US-tourism.
At this point I think they unloading into a long deceased corpse.
"Sorry, I don't use social media." (hands over burner phone)
Can't delete data from a phone that never had it. 😉 Bonus if you hand them a dumb phone.
"Oh, my phone? Sure, here you go!"
True. But then they can just arrest you for being a liar, regardless of if it’s true.
We gotta get rid of this Trump asshole…
Man, if only lying was a crime!
sigh…
Oh no, I typed in the wrong password and phone wiped itself
Oopsie-felony!
"Send me the bravo team. We have a terrorist here".
Poor Infantino. So much sucking up to Trump and all he gets is lower attendance for the world cup.
This is probably illegal for Europeans. They would need to pay a fine on return from the USA.
What is illegal? Revealing your social media history?
Unless the intention is to dissuade compliance with authoritarian rules, it seems very weird and even then it stills looks cruel (to fine someone who might have not had any leverage at the time)
When I see the votes here, people don't seem to have read the article. You aren't just required to reveal social media history. They want information about other people, too. Your family, etc. And they probably haven't consented to giving their data to the US customs. This is against European privacy laws.
You can give your public (!) social media history to everyone you want to. It's your own data. But it stops at other people's data. You can't do that.
What is illegal?
Giving them personal data of other people who haven't consented to it.
What if you dont use social media???