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[–] thfi@discuss.tchncs.de 155 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

I can only hope that the A.I. bubble bursts in time when I need to buy a new computer.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 134 points 4 hours ago (8 children)

What I'm becoming worried about now is all these corporations now realizing that they can simply supply price the average consumer out of owning electronics or any kind of compute. And locking them into renting or leasing access to data center compute and keeping the power of information further consolidated in corporate interests.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 64 points 4 hours ago

“You will own nothing and be happy”

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 43 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Holy cow that’s a very real danger I hadn’t thought of! The industry needs a new trend to reuse all this capacity they built, because AI will likely scale back as many startups fail to reach profit.

Renting your home computer might be the next trend, and it could be gratis at first so people get used to it. Why spy on users when you can actually own their computers?

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[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 25 points 2 hours ago

Aren't we already seeing that though?

The vast majority of people who surf the web don't use a computer to do it. People who do belong to niches. People over a certain age grew up with and still buy computers. People who game still buy computers or consoles. People who stream/create content still use computers and other electronics for that purpose, same with like. Engineers and hobbyists using CAD and other software in creative spaces.

But the smart phone has overtaken the computer as a personal computing device by quite a large margin now. And at every turn companies are trying to make cell phones a den of ad service, slop, and addictive content while stealing any user data that's not nailed down to increase their revenue and continue the circle.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 hours ago

"Please insert more corpo-coin for compute access"

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

theyd have to all collorbate to make that happen though, which is really unfeasable on their end. a BUNCH of companies will go under if they cannot sell product. they arent going to willingly take losses for the sake of a different company.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They don't really have to collaborate though. They're proving right now that they can price out consumers by just buying all the hardware capacity up and letting the market take care of the little guys. Hardware manufacturers like Micron are obliging.

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[–] CoderSupreme@programming.dev 7 points 3 hours ago

Wouldn't the chinese or whoever doesn't chose to do that gain market share?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I hope they do, it will just break stuff more and people will be more likely to go with Linux and open source software. My 10 year old computer still is super fast if it's not bloated.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 hours ago

Linux won’t make bullshit pc part prices cheaper. RAM, SSDs, GPUs are all rising in prices because of the AI bubble, used and new are all being affected. Can’t run Linux if the parts are too expensive to even get in the first place.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Software needs hardware Linux dose nothing but make it easier for them.

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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 hours ago

How's your 10 year old computer going to look when it's 30 years old?

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[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 34 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

First it was GPUs because crypto, then this. Wonder what useless thing the tech bros will cover up with in a few years!

[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 66 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Article in 2027:

Keyboard prices soared this month, as tech giants pivoted from failed AI projects to employing hordes of monkeys typing randomly. One CEO was quoted as saying, “Just a few trillion more dollars, and I think our random typing model could reproduce the lost contents of the Library of Alexandria.”

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 30 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

When in a gold rush, be the one selling shovels.

I'm off to buy stocks in bananas.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck...

Even when the bubble bursts, they're going to have an insane amount of computing power just sitting there, it will get sold off in bankruptcy proceedings, and some company will gobble it up and operate at a loss while continuing to secure future supply contracts.

There's a very real chance that we're witnessing the slow death of home computing.

The way things shake out it might end up being prohibitively expensive compared to cloud computing, and once that's the norm they price gouge like Walmart did to destroy small businesses.

Instead of dropping a couple grand for a PC every couple years, we'll have steady contracts paying for month at a time indefinitely.

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Right? Feel bad for anyone that just had a system fry or have been saving up to upgrade.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 104 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Holy shit, really? Crucial? They’ve been a major player for AGES. That’s wild.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 hour ago

I mean, Crucial is just the name that Micron puts on the memory they want to sell to consumers. So this story is basically just, "Micron no longer wants to sell to consumers".

[–] markz@suppo.fi 95 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

A few months from now: Crucial unshutting down

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 4 hours ago

If that happens, prior Crucial consumers (like myself) should boycott because they already showed what they actually care about and it isn't their loyal customer base. They don't want us to buy their products? We should happily give them what they want now should they change their mind later.

Anyway yeah, if they come back, they're officially on my shit list.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

You gotta be fucking kidding me, I swore by Crucial RAM and SSDs. Eat shit, Micron.

[–] dalakkin@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

Same here, the only SSD brand I buy :(

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 55 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

I am really beginning to fucking hate AI. Like, before I just didn't care for it, it just wasn't really my interest. But now I'm really beginning to fucking despise that shit and I really can't wait to see the "AI economy" completely fucking destroyed.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 26 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So far, AI has cost me a few hobbies (as in, made them a lot less enjoyable) and one job.

If there's an uprising against clankers, you'll find me at the front lines.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 11 points 38 minutes ago

Your enemy is, as usual, billionaires and their fanboys. Clankas don't exist as a separate thing, they are tools of the wealthy to further oppress the common folk.

[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 10 points 37 minutes ago

AI even ruined AI. Up until this insane hype train, ML models were specialized tools to achieve their tasks. Now the whole field is dominated by LLMs and slopgen bullshit.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 9 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago) (1 children)

exactly how i feel. literally said something very similar to my wife last night. I fucking hate AI. I think activist group are going to starting popping up hard against it. And if they aren't already, they really should. This shit is destroying our world. The only people this is helping is billionaires.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 42 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

These CEOs seem really slow on the uptake. Gonna put all your chips into the AI business just as the bubble is about to burst.

[–] Slotos@feddit.nl 15 points 2 hours ago

The market can stay irrational far longer than you can stay solvent.

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 35 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I deeply, genuinely, hope that the AI bubble bursts and they get fucked. It's just so short sighted to not hold on to the safety rope.

[–] __hetz@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago

I'd love it if their equipment racks all simultaneously burst into flame the day it pops so they can't pivot or hock their hoarded hardware to recoup the investment. Then again, if that finger on the monkey's paw did curl, they'd probably all get bailed out by the taxpayers the following week anyway.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 29 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

I read an article yesterday that Samsung's memory division wasn't even willing to let Samsung's own cell phone division lock in any long-term memory buying agreement with them, which the cell phone division hsd been trying to do. Too much money in selling HBM memory for parallel compute to datacenters.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/ai-frenzy-is-driving-new-global-supply-chain-crisis-2025-12-03/

Some 6,000 miles away in California, Paul Coronado said monthly sales at his company, Caramon, which sells recycled low-end memory chips pulled from decommissioned data-center servers, have surged since September. Almost all its products are now bought by Hong Kong-based intermediaries who resell them to Chinese clients, he said.

"We were doing about $500,000 a month," he said. "Now it's $800,000 to $900,000."

I threw away a bunch of large-capacity DDR4 DIMMs last year, figured that they'd be useless in the future. Kind of wish I hadn't, now. Reusing old DIMMs is probably the only source of supply that can be ramped up in the near term.

In October, SK Hynix said all its chips are sold out for 2026, while Samsung said it had secured customers for its HBM chips to be produced next year. Both firms are expanding capacity to meet AI demand, but new factories for conventional chips won't come online until 2027 or 2028.

Two or three years until manufacturing capacity will be ramped up.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 hour ago

Dude I have DIMMS that I bought in fucking 1999. Who the fuck throws away RAM?????

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 19 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Cyberpunk wasn't supposed to be a prophecy. It was meant to be a warning.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago

So was:

1984, Brave New World, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep (Bladerunner) and other pk dick novels/film adaptations, , etc.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 4 hours ago

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Crucial is the only good brand I can afford. This sucks ass and I HATE AI. I hope AI companies lose all their money and go bankrupt.

AI is destroying so many awesome things, all for profit.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 15 points 2 hours ago

All I can do is pray that my current RAM survives long enough for this stupid AI bubble to burst, like with the Crypto-Bro GPUs.

But it is kind of horrifying how easily consumers have been priced out of the RAM market - at least for newer stuff anyways

[–] gperson@programming.dev 9 points 3 hours ago

First it was GPUs, and now it's RAM.

This seriously sucks. Maybe I'll have to stick with my mom's laptop for a little while longer if prices are going to be impacted (which I having a feeling they probably will be unless they already are).

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm not much of a conspirationist, but this memory "shortage" doesn't add up for me; it's like AI companies went from buying 10 memories as usual to 1000000, all of a sudden! It's too fast, and sus.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Damn I've bought a lot of crucial stuff over the years

I assume they're my current memory kit too since I pretty much always go with them

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 7 points 4 hours ago
[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 33 minutes ago

Are you fucking kidding me? Holy fucking hell.

[–] danh2os@piefed.social 6 points 3 hours ago

They told us us to buy computers in 2024 in case this happens. Here we are.

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