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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 114 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

So...is she seriously trying to claim that Israel bombing Gaza into rubble over the last two years was all just "fake news"? Is she stupid, or does she just think everyone else is?

[–] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 9 hours ago

yes and yes.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 27 points 6 hours ago

She's getting a nice kickback from all the US investments (both public and private) into Israel. It's that simple. Money talks. Dead children don't.

[–] Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I think the claim is supposed to be that the parts of it that makes Israel look bad are what's fake. Like the proof of them bombing civilians, or of their soldiers having called shot sniping contests on literal fucking kids. She seems to be claiming that we're seeing fake videos that are showing Israel killing civilians rather than the dangerous Hamas militants they are and it's brainwashing us into being anti-Israel.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 63 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Hillary has always been an out of touch, pro war hawk. It's one of the reasons Trump won in 2016.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Trump is also a war hawk but convinced people he isn't

See Iran, Argentina, etc

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Right, but in the context of 2016 it wasn't known if he was while Hillary was known.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 57 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've literally seen videos of children's bodies being carried with a missing head, having bullet holes through their face, or having mangled bodies. I've seen videos of Palestinians trying to get food while getting shot at and hiding behind rubble. I've seen videos of civilians getting shot right in front of their children and hit with bombs while minding their own business. And I'm so tired of seeing people in suits up on a stage without a care in the world saying "it's not that bad" with a straight fucking face at every single thing going wrong in this world.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 25 points 6 hours ago

No you see those are totally fake videos edited by Hamas to garner sympathy, the reality is that all Palestinians are bloodthirsty savages who'd gladly kill any and all innocent israeli if given the opportunity!

Hillary, most likely. But also, /s on my part if it wasn't obvious.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 57 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] frunch@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

Jesus fucking christ

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Israel is just too valuable an ally for the empire. Why would America turn against it's own child: a genocidal liberal democracy displacing brown people?

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's the flaw of hierarchial power structures. They always calcify to serve themselves. Not the people they're supposed to serve. Look at North Korea and China assisting Russia's imperial machinations in the Donbas and Crimea. None of them (all similar power structures. Not just the ones I named) are our allies.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

They're living the American dream!

Reminding us how Trump won I see. Glad she opened her mouth, too many people are still trying to lionize her.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 42 points 10 hours ago
[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 37 points 6 hours ago

Shut up, Hilary, you loser.

[–] DolphinMath@slrpnk.net 36 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

Here’s a longer version that gives a little additional context to the quote:

“A lot of the challenge is with younger people. More than 50 percent of young people in America get their news from social media. So just pause on that for a second. They are seeing short-form videos, some of them totally made up, some of them not at all representing what they claim to be showing, and that’s where they get their information.”

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 45 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Because listening to talking heads regurgitating corporate propaganda is so much better, right?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 hours ago

Social media is also corporate propaganda.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Right?! Getting news from tiktok is just the next evolutionary step from 24 hour news channels. They're just pissed that they're getting out-gamed in a realm where they used to reign effortlessly.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, somebody who voted for war with Iraq because she thought they had WMDs is worried about other people getting faulty information on the mideast? That's cute

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

"Do as I say, not as I do"

This does not make her look any better, especially when the deaths as reported by legacy news are undeniable. They literally require cult-like levels of self delusion to think killing thousands of kids and leveling a city isn't objectionable.

The true cowardice is that they're doing genocide denial instead of admitting that "the 2 million Gazans isn't enough." The only way you think this is acceptable is if you think Israel doesn't just deserve a homeland, but ethnostate. That the Palestinians are just like the native Americans, "in the way of destiny."

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 hours ago

Did somebody tell her how Biden (and traditional outlets) fell for the "decapitated babys on october 7th hoax"?

[–] shapeofthings@piefed.ca 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think the problem is more that 80% of older Americans get their news from Fox, as well as the fact that 95% of Americans think everything can be dumbed down into a 30 second video and their opinion after watching it carries the same weight as someone who spent a lifetime studying the issue.

And yes Hillary always has been a pretty terrible person. But Trump is so so so much worse.

How many decades of study does it take to come to the conclusion that 'Israel was right to detonate pager-bombs' and not deserve shit for it?

That is to say not every greybeard academic is immune to shit takes.

I'm sure some videos are staged or focus on the worst tragedies in the region, but I have yet to see any footage that paints Israel in a positive light. So it's either a genocide in real-time or they're making existence for all in Gaza so miserable that Hamas surrenders. Neither action is tolerable.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 29 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

^ This person was the "good" timeline for America. Dw I'm sure voting blue will work out one day.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago

No Bernie was the good timeline. This lady caused this awful mess we have now because she thought it was her turn.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because voting red has worked well so far? I don't get the logic. There aren't any other options.

How about we all start voting third party until we can establish at least 3 major parties. 5 would probably be better. It would force them to work together to accomplish things.

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 hours ago

Can she just fade into complete obscurity already? Would've thought that would be what she'd want to do given her husband is gunna be a big name in the Epstein files, and possibly also her too

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

Fucking bitch

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 hours ago

She found a few specks of credibility left at the bottom and decided to immediately sell them to AIPAC.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Just another anti-life crusader.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Anyone who says this should be airdropped into Gaza.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Oh really, Hillary? So why did a good portion of the rest of the world say on record that Israel is committing genocide? They all watching the fake videos too?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 34 minutes ago

One of the reasons she was a crap candidate was that she kept resorting to that same patronizing tone.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 minutes ago

Damn, bitch is old 

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 50 minutes ago

They also watched the totally real results of a landscape reflecting Warsaw and Stalingrad in WW2.

All said and done, her point is accurate. Young people are consuming more and more propaganda and less factual information. And that is really dangerous. The article doesn't mention if she said atrocities weren't occuring or anything, so I assume she didn't. Sounds like a little pandering for a paycheck. But not the total sellout I expected. I have no love for the Clinton's, but they were closer to old school poloticians that tried to walk the line but not cross over. Today's poloticians just jump right over the line and start pitching propaganda for the highest bidder.