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The glory days of Epic Games are long gone and Tim Sweeney is a god damn moron.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 157 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Valve revolutionized Linux gaming; Tim categorically rejects it.
Valve banned shitcoins and blockchain scams; Tim welcomed them with open arms.
Valve enforces honesty regarding AI slop; Tim wants to literally deceive people.
All that on top of what they did with third-party exclusives.

He's like that annoying kid who didn't get invited to a birthday party and vowed to always do the opposite of what the popular kid does. Petulant fucking overgrown child.

[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 44 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Valve banned shitcoins and blockchain scams

would've been nice if they banned gambling, too, but that's part of their business model unfortunately.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

I hear people say this sometimes, but I don't know what they mean. Is there part of Valve's system that has a gambling mechanic I've just never engaged with?

Or is it one of their games that has gambling?

Because I've been using it for years as basically my sole gaming interface and haven't seen any gambling.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 23 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The short version is that an enormous, multibillion dollar gambling industry has been built around Valve's item marketplace, and in particular around CS:GO skins. If that sounds completely insane and stupid, I'm with you, but it exists. Valve takes their typical cut off of all of these trades, and thus derives massive profits from it.

Here's the long version: https://peertube.gravitywell.xyz/videos/watch/a8e6d20c-3003-4b14-b9c4-cb6a25b238e7?isPeertubeContent=1

[–] technohacker@programming.dev 7 points 9 hours ago

Mainly Team Fortress 2 and Counter Strike GO/2, cuz both of them have cosmetics with rarities obtained via what effectively amounts to lootboxes. In one sense they also have an out-of-game economy around these things where these items are traded for actual money

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[–] flamiera@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 11 hours ago

Tim's strategy seems to be "Whatever Valve drops, we take because we feel Valve is missing out on something BIG! It'll make US look great!"

And while the sad truth of the matter could very well be a maybe, depending on how the pure-epic userbase are over there towards it, it still pales to everything Steam has been built to be.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 94 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

definitely keep doing it then. Sweeney is consistently on the wrong side.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 28 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Bingo! Valve is one hell of a monopoly, but they don't totally fuck their customers. Sweeney has to answer to his shareholders. Those are the real customers; not you and me.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago

Sweeney has to answer to his shareholders.

which is like 40% tencent.

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[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 9 points 10 hours ago

And if it’s as he says, and eventually all games get labeled that way, what’s his problem with that? Man just doesn’t want to compete.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 56 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Beyond just Tim Sweeney sounding dumb, there's something truly evil and malicious about this framing.

His response was to a tweet that said: Steam and all digital marketplaces need to drop the "Made with AI" label. It doesn't matter anymore. (Emphasis mine)

All well and good for that guy maybe, but why do they need to drop it and why does Tim Sweeney agree? Why is less information for the people that want to have it a necessity. And WHY does he feel compelled to comment on the behavior of his competitors in this way.

Fucking ghouls, the whole lot of them. I hope their AI creations destroy them and they suffer even a single moment of hubris.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

People that are wrong this often and have the amount of power a CEO can exert over their company never ever realize they are wrong.

Because of this, they never experienced hubris or any kind of personal growth for that matter as long as it's coming from this dumbfuck endstage capitalistic nightmare pipeline.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 52 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Of course epic doesn't understand empowering consumers with information. They don't care about consumers. If they did, they'd maybe try adding some long requested features to their storefront.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 26 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sweeney's customers are the shareholders. Not the gamers.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

And that's why he'll fail.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 45 points 9 hours ago

Tum Sweeney: "Please stop labeling all these turds, because everything will be made with shit at some point"

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Epic Games had glory days?

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 42 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

Unreal Tournament 2004 was a spectacular arena shooter back in the day before Battle Royale and MOBAs completely took over. Aged like fine wine too.

Yeah, I'm old.

[–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 18 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

ut99 > 2k4! But it is a close call, admittedly.

But also, epic released some absolute bangers in the 90's, though admittedly as a publisher. eg. Castle of the Winds, One Must Fall 2097.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

Lesser known, but I cannot recommend enough going back and exploring the worlds of ZZT (and by extension, MegaZeux) as an early, amateur game engine. The projects are raw but endearing and an absolutely wonderful time capsule that still has a niche but dedicated following.

https://museumofzzt.com/

https://www.digitalmzx.com/

Some day when I have the time, I'd like to make an extended engine similar to this. Something with a simple scripting language, extreme flexibility in character and color sets. Ability to run and host your own game worlds over SSH or something similar. Just like a real spit in the face for triple A and going the complete opposite direction of minimal but super accessible.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Epic Megagames certainly did.

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[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

Unreal 1 was a milestone, and Unreal Engine always has been very popular, now more than ever.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Gears of War was huge.

Unreal Tournament was pretty big for several iterations.

Unreal engine is STILL used by half the video game industry.

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[–] pumpkin_spice@lemmy.today 36 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't want AI-generated assets in games at the expense of past, present, and future artists -- artists that created all the source material in the first place and had it pirated by corporations who had enough money to ignore all existing IP law globally.

If Tim Sweeney is fine with pirating other's art, he should be cool with people pirating his games.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

Yeah this is my take as well. AI can be a useful tool but putting people out of work so you can save money to create soulless art is just wrong.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 31 points 12 hours ago

Some of us want quality over mass produced crap stolen from others.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

His expectations are just Unreal.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

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A man of culture, I see.

[–] mohab@piefed.social 24 points 9 hours ago

This is like Jared Leto giving Daniel Day-Lewis acting advice 😂

Go back in your hole, Tim.

[–] Xotic56@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Shit like this is why people only use that storefront for the free games. Completely out of touch.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 11 hours ago

Anyway, here's a userscript/browser addon to make Steam's AI warnings into a popup: https://github.com/seeeeew/aiwarningforsteam

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 hours ago

Worry about your own fucking storefront. There's a lot of worrying that needs to be done.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago

He doesn't sound very epic to me.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing epic about the guy or his company.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 hours ago
[–] Strider@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

I think I just understood why UE5 sucks that much...

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I don't know how long it's been since I even bothered claiming the free game of the week. Like a year.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

My Steam backlog is 600+ games deep so I don't have to swim in that Epic shit. Sweeney can suck a nut.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

And i bet you don't even touch the free game you claimed because Epic launcher take forever to launch.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

I’ve never even installed the Epic Lawnchair. I just use Heroic, which works very well.

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[–] jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network 10 points 11 hours ago

How do I filter "tim sweeney"?

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Weird. The guy that has ties with tencent is saying we should not call out ai. Chinese owned tencent would never push out pure ai crap. Or try to push it on their store front.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Company leadership anywhere these days make me sick with the way they try to spin AI like it's the second fucking coming of Christ when their true intentions are far more insidious.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Bullshit translator: "I want to sell more AI made games, so i can reduce costs by firing everyone, and being held accountable for using AI is gonna prevent me from bilking idiots to increase my fortunes by another billion or 5"

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

These suits are all out of touch morons

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