Fundamentally unserious "just admit defeat" type of offering. The real signal is that the US is still a painfully unreliable ally.
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The US is a shit stain on the world stage.
The same type of plan the west and in fact China and Russia back up for palestinians. Both Ukraine and Palestine should not give up a single inch of land to the occupiers and desfinitely not surrended armed resistance
God damn right.
US is extremely reliable when it comes to Israel.
True, even the democrats would rather lose the election than to criticise israel
And yet, for being so painfully unreliable, especially with the ruling parties flip-flopping back and forth so much, USA aid is still sought after. 🙄
I imagine as Zelensky has said so many times before, Ukraine won't cede shit. Hopefully, he tells them both to go kick rocks.
It's like Smeagol/Gollum. You might need them for certain shit, but you know it's going to end in tears.
Why wouldn't Ukraine take anything the US is willing to give? Worst case scenario, they don't give anything and you're in the same place you started.
It is said to have been inspired by the Trump administration’s efforts to broker a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.
That explains a lot. Basically "reward the aggressor" and "prevent any possibility for future armed resistance"
Also “create a news event that will make Trump look like he’s accomplished something,” non matter how meaningless it is on the ground.
"You can have peace. Just surrender to our rule!"
Reminder that bullying exists from the school yard all the way to international politics.
That's because the bullies never matured past the school yard.
Putin just keeps grabbing us by the Trump.
So basically, allow the invaders to invade your country without resistance?
And then wait for them to do it again in about 10 years to grab for even more. It's not a peace plan, it's surrender.
"Make Russian your official language!"
10 Years Later
"We must invade and claim territory, the majority of the population speaks Russian so obviously it's already Russia"
More: "Make this retroactively legal so we can avoid war crime trials and damages".
I for one prefer full scale war than this.
SLAVA UKRAINI!
When will someone explain to Donald that Russia only respects power. Always has always will.
Slap them hard enough and often enough and THEN negotiate.
Maybe a tomahawk to one of Putins personal villas?
Trump admires this. He doesnt see Putin as an enemy, but an inspiration. Same reason MBS was welcomed the way he was at the White House, while people like Zelenskyy are mocked and scolded when they arrive.
I can hear Zelenskyy laughing from here
“Oh wait you’re serious let me laugh harder” - Zelenskyy, pribably
LOL
Vlad and Donnie don’t know peace, they only know vassals
Stupid title made it sound like Ukraine made the offer.
I'm trying to figure out if that was intentional, or they're just really fucking bad at their job.
Does anyone think Ukraine is going to roll over for trump?
US is the new USSR.
It's going to collapse about the same way soon enough too.
What the hell do you even mean by this? In what way is it acting not like it always has?
Every month I buy a field med kit for Ukraine through White Stork. I am so sorry about Trump, Ukraine. So utterly sorry.
US sees their cementing the occupation in Palestine and wants to do the same here.