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Kyiv has been offered a “Kremlin peace plan” under the guise of negotiations. The US and Russia have reportedly prepared a peace plan for Ukraine that would involve Kyiv meeting the Kremlin’s maximalist demands, says Christopher Miller, a correspondent for the Financial Times.

At the same time, Reuters sources report that the US indicated to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy that Kyiv should accept Washington-prepared frameworks for ending the war with Russia. It remains unclear what security guarantees would be given for Kyiv, as there is no evidence that the Kremlin has abandoned its imperial ambitions.

Earlier, Axios wrote that Washington and Moscow were discussing a new peace plan to end Russia’s war against Ukraine.

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[–] yakko@feddit.uk 168 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Fundamentally unserious "just admit defeat" type of offering. The real signal is that the US is still a painfully unreliable ally.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 73 points 17 hours ago

The US is a shit stain on the world stage.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 45 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The same type of plan the west and in fact China and Russia back up for palestinians. Both Ukraine and Palestine should not give up a single inch of land to the occupiers and desfinitely not surrended armed resistance

[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

God damn right.

[–] tirednapstablook@lemmings.world 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

US is extremely reliable when it comes to Israel.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

True, even the democrats would rather lose the election than to criticise israel

[–] ICCrawler@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

And yet, for being so painfully unreliable, especially with the ruling parties flip-flopping back and forth so much, USA aid is still sought after. 🙄

I imagine as Zelensky has said so many times before, Ukraine won't cede shit. Hopefully, he tells them both to go kick rocks.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 15 points 16 hours ago

It's like Smeagol/Gollum. You might need them for certain shit, but you know it's going to end in tears.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago

Why wouldn't Ukraine take anything the US is willing to give? Worst case scenario, they don't give anything and you're in the same place you started.