I think Saudi Arabia being, y'know, Saudi Arabia is bad enough without throwing in that "Chinese ally" thing lol.
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Sorry for calling again but could you please paint "DEATH TO AMERICA" on the jets? We got those new hangars and don't want to make them all smelly right away.
monarchist nation build on slave labor, that murders political dissidents, queer people and indigenous groups? yea, that's probably bad or whatever idk, ~~i mean we did all that too and we're the good guys yknow~~
chinese ally???? now they've crossed a line!!!! 😡😡😡
You seem to have repeated yourself a little bit there. Minus the monarchy.
Kind of ironic too because as evil as they are, SA are absolutely an American ally as well.
Saudi Arabia isn't going to reverse engineer an F35. China will reverse engineer an F35.
SURELY THERE IS A CONGRESSIONAL REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE EXPORT OF ARMS. SURELY A CHECK OR BALANCS EXISTS. REFUSING THE SALE OF F35S TO CHINA THROUGH SAUDI WILL HAVE BIPARTICIAN SUPPORT.
The AECA contains procedures for congressional joint resolutions of disapproval concerning notified FMS and DCS transactions. Section 36(b)(1) of the AECA prohibits the U.S. government from issuing an LOA if Congress "enacts a joint resolution prohibiting the proposed sale."
GOOD GOOD WAIT
Congress has never successfully blocked a proposed arms sale via a joint resolution of disapproval.
WAIT
The President has the authority to waive the AECA statutory review periods
Clown government
source https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL31675#_Toc193291696
Super solid post. References cited from the government itself. Depressing that it’s on this topic though. Damn.
Yes the Trump is made of Trump
Taking a bribe to let China reverse engineer our next generation fighter jet should be the kind of thing that has consequences. That’s going to cost a lot of lives down the road if things go sideways.
Burger republic.
"A banana republic is a country with an economy of state capitalism, where the country is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class. Typically, a banana republic has a society of extremely stratified social classes, usually a large impoverished working class and a ruling class plutocracy, composed of the business, political, and military elites."
We got him boys. Pack it up. For the first time in a life of unchecked blatant corruption he will experience consequences. Yup. This is the one that does it. All that other treason was foreplay. Yessir; good day's work. We can all finally heal.
You kind of have to take a step back and just be impressed for a minute.
For this man with all his fuckups and perceived incompetence, he's done an amazing job of installing yes men and cronies at every avenue that could have enforced any consequences for his actions. Can you imagine what it would be like to see someone apply a similar energy to actually improving our country.
Everything Trump has done from day one has been treason. For some reason the self appointed patriots don't mind.
Could the OP not think of any reason this would be a bad thing other than China? Not the slave labor? Not the support for autocracies? Not the crimes against humanity? Fucking yanks man.
That said, I have no particular opinion on the China thing, let Trump destroy Western military supremacy; I'll happily watch.
*Other than China being able to reverse-engineer our military tech? I mean, they probably have our building schematics through other means, but isn't that the main faux pas?
Could we get sources?
https://apnews.com/article/f35-fighter-jet-saudis-trump-deal-299b47534e121923851e18fd02a57799
Appears there are a number of sources discussing it. It's strange being that Russia is currently selling them air defense systems as well.
Not that surprising if you think about it. Clearly Russia wants real world data regarding how those systems work against cutting edge US technologies.
Thank you, saved me a couple of searches
remember KUSHNER got 2bn investment funds from the saudis? for giving nuclear secrets.
And also handing over information from US spies on dissidents to Mohammed Bin Salman, even if they were family that just opposed him, he trapped them in a hotel and had them all tortured and/or murdered till there was enough alignment to him.
"The Intercept also reported that Kushner’s information on Saudi royals not loyal to MBS was contained in the President’s Daily Brief, a document presented to the President every morning. Kushner lost his access to the document earlier this year when new security clearance rules were instituted.
Eager to consolidate power and rein in the sprawling orbit of the Saudi royal family and aristocratic class, Prince bin Salman listened intently and a week later cracked down on corruption in the country by imprisoning more than 200 members of the country’s ruling class inside the confines of the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Riyadh, charging each with corruption"
Blatant is the key word. They are so high on their own narrative that they don't even try to hide their corruption anymore. After their downfall, we'll have plenty of material to indict & ultimately lock them away with.
I could be wrong and I admit that I don't have as a firm grasp of US politics as I'd like, but I really cannot see a situation where anyone is going to be able to control Trump to the point that which they might be able to get him from front of a jury. I can't see that happening without some level of conflict. He's already talking about a third term, the only way that doesn't happen is a rebellion, or him having a heart attack or something.
Any other president would have been thrown in a cell, but for Donny and his cult it’s just normal business as usual.
Lots of futility in this thread and I sure get that. But this time IS slightly different. Trump's invincibility aura is gone, and the cuts are now making him bleed. The East Wing. The piggy comment. MTG flipping. Epstein files. Redistricting. Republicans are suddenly trying to put air between themselves and Trump, get MAGA to turn on Trump. The time for schadenfreude is nigh.
I'm sorry, but after everything we've seen over the last decade, this comment is WAY too optimistic.
Republican senators had the golden opportunity to rid their party of Trump at the tail end of his first term after he lost an election and incited an insurrection.
They didn't.
The only hope I can see is that they recognize that at this point he could literally keel over dead any day and they may be planning their exit strategy. But I'm pretty sure that's just "slide Vance in" and they don't really need to do that until Trump is actually dead.
I'm sure they're concerned about the mid-terms but I don't think their strategy for improving their image before then is getting rid of Trump. I think they have other plans for that. They've hitched their wagon to him. And he owns the hearts and minds of every racist, sexist, ignorant piece of shit in this country. And there's A LOT of those motherfuckers out there. That's valuable to their party.
Give it two months they will all suck his balls and dick again and ask for afters. As long as you hate the same people it's water under the bridge 🌉
Wait, the insurrectionist would commit treason?
He’s committed treason daily for the last ten years. When are we going to do something about it?
America is in its Zuma era.
South Africa arms deal that landed Zuma in court
Spoiler warning: the country has still not recovered.
But...but hunter biden's laptop...using dad for business in Ukraine....
Time was we would kill traitors. If this is treason, then we should kill him. One person is closer than anyone else to him right now. They could stop all of this.
Nobody in US political leadership wants to set the precedent of facing legal consequences for their actions while in power.
Remember when we found out we live in a country where all our military members, past and present, broke their oaths to protect our Constitution and that, as a nation, we don't give a shit if traitors sell us out?
Home of the brave, my asshole.
Can't the Pentagon just NOT do it? Just fucking defy him, or sell them shit fake ones
Most of the career Defence personnel in the Pentagon with spines have already been forced out through purges.
The remaining staff are loyal to Trump, or likely have made clear they'll not risk their jobs raising any concerns or objections.
I don't think most of the US realises how fucked they are under Trump 2. This is barely 10 months in of a four year term.
Aren’t the F-35s software and updates DRM’d to hell anyway? Thought I read somewhere that Lockheed Martin could remotely kill any F-35 at anytime. They’re the ultimate John Deer.
No hardware or software that you have unfettered access to is un-crackable forever. If China has the will to crack it, they almost certainly have the means. It is only a matter of manhours.
If someone has physical access to a device its practically impossible to hide things from a dedicated attacker, especially a nation state actor.
You can read ram for instance straight from the traces rather than from the ram module.
If Lockheed Martin has kill codes for their F35s then China can reverse engineer those kill codes
And what will be done? Everyone in a position to do something is his toady or doing the same thing. This is the end game of individualism and capitalism.
How's that independence working out