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Could the OP not think of any reason this would be a bad thing other than China? Not the slave labor? Not the support for autocracies? Not the crimes against humanity? Fucking yanks man.
That said, I have no particular opinion on the China thing, let Trump destroy Western military supremacy; I'll happily watch.
*Other than China being able to reverse-engineer our military tech? I mean, they probably have our building schematics through other means, but isn't that the main faux pas?
Didn't China already hack the DoD, or some other contractor, and steal the F-22 or F-35 plans? I swear I read this a few years ago.
No, that's the main faux pas if you're a US liberal with no care for human life that doesn't meet a property minimum or resides outside your borders, and not being that I don't give a shit about China getting access to US military tech. Arming Saudi Arabia is bad because Saudi Arabia is an autocratic imperialist slaver state.
I don't think anyone is arguing that governments are good, only that he should be in prison.
I mean, that's good, isn't it? Or are you in favour of world dominance of the American military industrial complex? American weapons are primarily used to bomb brown children, the more they're reverse-engineered the better
Yeah, but Mandarin is hard to learn.
Much like capitalism, competition is important between systems of government until we get it right. Capitalism obviously isn't the right system, but China abuses the shit out of ethnic minorities as well (Uyghurs in the news most recently).
Maybe we should all live in Norway. I hear they're chill.
West != USA
Yeah but F-35 is a NATO-wide program if I understand this stuff right. The F-35 and F-22 are also the only fifth-gen fighters the West has, so the effects of this, if there are any, wouldn't only be felt by America.
Needed to appeal to American supremacists by mentioning China at least once. It can't be truly evil unless CHINA!!!