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[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 95 points 2 days ago (8 children)

With people like Modi and Bulldozer Baba in charge, India's economic future is bleak regardless of how much you agree to be whipped.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds par for the course for Indian work-life balance, from what I’ve heard

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 26 points 2 days ago

2 jobs ago, the business partner for the company I was working at basically outsourced all of their programming work to india. Not a single person in the US on their team knew how either their code or our machine worked.

Anyway, I remember quite a few timesnhearong the work schedule these people had. Theu had one dude who regularly was up until like 5 in the god damn morning so that they could have someone testing their code with our machine.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 56 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would have held it together for a while, but that condescending “mind your language” would set me OFF

[–] Numuruzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago

To literally the politest version of that reply, as well. Not "mind your language", you mean "stop making me feel like the bad guy"

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

"Client wont wait" - lol :)

For some people, they spend their entire lives inside the matrix. Only when they get old, they realize that none of the work they did matters. Unless it was for the good of humanity.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 day ago

The client will always wait. These hustle addicts forget all the times they had to reschedule to accommodate ((wow 2 c and 2 m? Seems excessive)) others. Life happens and we work around it.

[–] killabeezio@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is exactly it. When I was a bit younger I worked hard. I couldn't understand why others were not as hardworking as myself. Luckily I learned pretty early on that this is not the way. I was able to travel the world for a bit. After that, I took a leap of faith, quit my job, and just moved. After I quit my job, I started to think about how people would think about the work I did and what I left behind. And I realized, they probably won't think much about it at all. Some other person will come in and pick up where I left off. They will probably cuss me out because of some of the things I had to do. At the end of it, there is no legacy I will leave behind. No one will care. No one will remember.

These days, I am still pretty good at my job, but I don't really go above and beyond. So what if you get some award at your company. They don't mean anything. I go to work. Do my job and that's it. I try to chill and take it as easy as possible. I get paid to produce a certain amount of output and that is what I give. There are people that will still get rich off of the amount of work that I do, but I don't care. I have enough to get by in life to where I am content. Luckily, if I am ever in a situation like this post, I can tell them to go fuck themselves and quit.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

100% agree with you. I think travelling is maybe key to this realization also. Just seeing other cultures makes us question our own and if its really the best way to live life. :)

Ive had many jobs through life and in the rear view mirror, they just were a way to pay the bills. I dont think about those jobs or the people i worked with at all. It didnt give very meaningful life experiences either. A lot of office work.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I only found that funny when watching reality shows like east coast choppers or something. We need to build this bike for our very busy customer Kid Rock. He needs it in 10 days, because he needs to ride his new bike then. Alright gang, time to work 16 hour days.

Then they keep hammering in how very important it is and he's not gonna pay if he gets it 2 hours too late. I know it's all just fake theatrical reality tv, but even as a child i never got the whole urgency they tried to push. All i thought was: so what, lol, fuck them

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Yeah, they create urgency in tv shows to make the viewer feel its more exciting. I think another example of this is Hells Kitchen. :)

Also the editing of that show is hilarious. They take out of place facial expressions and put it in scenes where they never happened, to create a viewer experience that is more exciting.

It is entertaining but I wonder how many people dont realize this when watching...

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[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

This right here is why I love being a nurse. Every day I go to work it matters

its vertigo important.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We need a law that people that treat their employees like this are just forever barred from owning money. Literally. They're legally not allowed to receive or own currency in any form. Make these people go back to barter.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Now introducing cryptocommodities, totally not a currency at all.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In the satirical Paranoia tabletop RPG, there are Experience Points. This is a post-monetary society where nobody has a job, so you don't earn "Money" by "working", you earn voluntary Experience Points by doing your mandatory voluntary assignments which you can then exchange for goods and (voluntary) services.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We have an office in India and I've interacted with them a fair bit and in my experience they're all come off as lunatics. They seem to take great pleasure in been mindless drones and doing everything by the book, which often results in more work than would have happened if they had engage some in common sense.

Here is an example that you can use to see how they just make their own lives harder

So one of the things we have to do occasionally is security incident reports, if anything happens like there is a data breach or even if just a potential data breach on one of our brazilian servers, it has to be thoroughly investigated and a report written up about it, so far, so good. Most of the report is written by us or our office in the US depending on what server was breached and what exactly happened, but some of the fine detail work is done by the office in India. A lot of what they do is correlate data and write reports, which are then packaged into the whole folder and then sent off to upper management, who probably ignore it to be honest.

We have this whole knowledge base article that tells everybody how to do every part of the job, the problem is it's awful and out of date so no one reads it anymore. One of the managers in the India office went to look up the report procedure and couldn't find any mention of the India office, because as I said it's out of date. They know it's out of date because the last updated date is sometime around 2018 which was before the India office even opened. So because of this they started to refuse to do the correlating of data, but they didn't say anything to us, they just stopped doing it. So it rolls around to the day before the report is supposed to go up to management, and we realise that they haven't sent us anything yet. So we have a meeting where they state that they are no longer going to do this because the knowledge article doesn't mention them. This results in more meetings to try and work out what the problem is and ultimately the knowledge article gets updated to include them. So now they have 24 hours to do a task that normally takes them a week, and if they don't do it they'll be the ones that get in trouble.

And I'm wondering now having read this if most of it was in fact just the manager being a dictator and everyone else not feeling like they're in a position that lets them argue with him. My manager absolutely would listen to her subordinates but maybe he won't.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My own experience of being, within a large transnational company, technical lead of a small team based in India for a cross-border software development project, is that their own management structures over there were spectacularly incompetent (and I come from a country - Portugal - were management practices are, IMHO, shit compared to the rest of Europe).

Amongst other things, they still had ancient management practices such as "managers must always earn more than technical personnel" which meant that even a junior manager earned more than a senior developer, in turn directly leading to bright young developers moving to management (were they were invariably shit) within maybe 5 years purelly because it was the only way to earn more money, so as a result the broader team (so, not just my project) there had no good senior developers - it was either "senior" in the sense of lots of years working there rather than senior-level expertise or a handful of junior and mid-level devs who were good at that level and could turn into competente senior techies, but were bound to transition to management as even a junior manager earned more than a senior techie.

Other "funny" things were how nobody there would never, ever, ever admit not to have fully understood something or needing more clarification during an open call about the project next-steps with the rest of the team, so I had to do "special handling" for my remote team of talking to each one individually and carefully tease away their questions with some kind of "it's on me" excuse, for example, saying that "I want to make sure I explained things correctly and didn't miss anything important". Notice that my Indian colleagues who were not based in India but rather sat with the rest in London, did not have that peculiar behaviour.

Unsurprisingly, that outsourced team which existed as part of an outsourcing division the senior management of the company had decided to set up in India to cut development costs, didn't actually add significant value because of the overhead of dealing with them and the need to check and correct their work, mean that the vastly more senior - and costly, as half of us were contractors - team in London (of which I was part) ended up losing almost as much time dealing with them and the side-effects of the low quality of their work as was gained from having that India-based team doing part of the development work.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 day ago

Other "funny" things were how nobody there would never, ever, ever admit not to have fully understood something or needing more clarification during an open call about the project next-steps with the rest of the team

I fucking hate it when people do that at work.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have a coworker who is from India, and he's a great guy, but this describes him pretty well:

They seem to take great pleasure in been mindless drones and doing everything by the book, which often results in more work than would have happened if they had engage some in common sense.

It doesn't help that his supervisor is pretty new himself. Sometimes he asks me for advice, or how to do something, and it feels like I'm deprogramming him or something... I think he's slowly getting there, but you can tell that, "yes, that is technically what it says, but this is how we actually do it..." just breaks his brain sometimes lol

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[–] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

I'm glad you got that off your chest; it's a fun story.

I don't really see the correlation between doing the work and the India office being mentioned. Was it like "the US office does this, Brazilian office does that" and since India wasn't mentioned they thought you were handing off extra work to them that you were supposed to do?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Please tell me this isn’t real

[–] DABDA@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 days ago

Even aside from the soap opera-like conversation, the timestamps seem pretty suspect to me. Even assuming STT input it seems unlikely both sides (especially with one being ostensibly emotionally distraught) would be reading and responding within a minute each time.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Indian managers are usually power tripping bastards.

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[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

Image may be faked but it fits a general gist of many Indians work-life expectations. Not different from China 996, Japan, or Korean work culture. Less drinking in India but that's about it.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

For satire to work, it has to be based on something real.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago

It doesn’t really matter if this particular conversation is real. I’m sure conversations similar to this have happened many times, we just haven’t seen them. Consider this one a dramatic reenactment.

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[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

India is still a caste state.

[–] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 days ago

I know you're trying to compare this to caste, but India is also literally still a casteist country.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

America was explicitly a racial caste state until the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964.

India similarly outlawed caste discrimination in article 17 of it's constitution at its inception.

Of course laws cannot change centuries old social customs overnight. Which is why the US employs DEI to help equalize opportunity and India has gone as far as to implement quotas for the historically disenfranchised in the public sector.

[–] itkovian@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Piss off. Some things are more important than economic growth of 1%, like family and friends.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's not like India has a particularly good economic outlook anyway so I'm not even sure what this guy's on about.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Never forget that your job is simply a means to an end and that end is for you to do the things you want to do in life.

Whether it's just that we have to spend so much time working to do those things is another discussion

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[–] webp@mander.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

What a psycho.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The moment when you realize you need to find a new job.

[–] TypFaffke@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago

Most meetings are vertigo important

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Mind my language?! How about this language: fuck you!"

At least I hope that's what the next text was.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'd show up, hang in a bit.

<asking to hear a statement again a couple of times>

"Sorry guys. Just not with it today. My uncle died last night, had to come in, having a hard time concentrating."

Notice I didn't throw my boss under the bus? :) But the question of why I had to come in festers like a lingering fart. Now the boss has to play the good guy, or praise me for me sacrifice. Either way he looks an ass and I said nothing against him.

Play it from there.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I’d say I wasn’t showing up, then I wouldn’t show up.

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[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You still missed being with your family, and no one really gives a fuck about how distraught you look. Congrats, you got played.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you're forced into a fight, you might as well hit back.

And congrats! You have the privilege of making that choice.

[–] Zapados@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

It's because of people who fought, that we enjoy that 'privilege'.

"You want an overreaction? FUCK YOU AND YOUR CLIENT, I QUIT!"

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

How about we uh, apply the Eskimo method of dealing with these types? I don't want to hear the "they let you feed yourself, they owe you nothing". These leeches hollowed out the system to put us in the position we are in, just so they could exploit us. There's no free forest land, you have to pay taxes for services you don't get to enjoy, and on top of that, there is little competition between workplaces to pander to employee's, only to exploit what little more they can.

One of the reasons that my main goal is figuring out how to get people independent: the workplace corrupts your very soul (metaphorically, there are none).

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