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Good evening, Lemmy,

I recently got into Insane Clown Posse and, as a result, into Juggalo culture. Since acceptance, respect, and support are such important ideals among Juggalos, I was wondering:

Are Juggalos, therefore, allies of the LGBTQ+ community?

Since I live in Germany and have yet to meet someone who even likes ICP in my country, I have basically zero contact with Juggalos. So, everything I know comes from what I've read online, and I was wondering how this translates into real life.

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[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

In case someone else needed to learn this: "Juggalo" is a term for fans of Insane Clown Posse, a hip hop group.

I had to look up so much stuff to even understand the question, so I'll let others provide actual answers.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Confusing jackrabbits with juggalos. A common misconception.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

Some of their older lyrics had some homophobic bullshit in them, for which they have since apologized. I read one such apology from one of them and it felt pretty genuine to me, FWIW.

So Juggalos I would expect to be inclusive of LGBT+ people, but no group that big is going to be perfectly in lock step on something like that.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Group of juggalos living out in the woods in Washington saved my life by helping me ditch a r×pist who was traveling with our caravan.

They did stuff like help out at the food pantries, told us the best places to go for free/low-cost supplies, and sabotaged the construction area for the Walmart often enough for it to be delayed for a loooong time.

I always think you gotta check with the people before you assume anything, but, from what I have experienced, they are scarily enthusiastic yet genuinely cool folks. Majority seem to be supportive of LGBTQ+ kinda stuff. 👍

[–] Funkwonker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Every Juggalo I've interacted with (sample size of 3) has been the kind of person I'd definitely consider an ally.

Potentially not representative of the greater community, but I've yet to experience anything to the contrary.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't believe I'm an arbitrator of who is or isn't an ally, but I did grow up with folks who identify as juggalos, I've joined them at the gathering previously, and live in an area of the midwest that is somewhat prolific with ICP fans.

My perspective is they are some of the kindest, easy going, unconventionally individualistic people I've ever met. Nearly unwaivering in their acceptance of others into the community. Almost like modern day hippies, very pro drugs, human unity and family. Many are lgbtq themselves.

I would GENERALLY consider them lgbtq allies. There's always assholes in every crowd though.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is very much true of metalheads as well. They listen to the MOST rage sounding terrifying music, but are the nicest damned folks I've ever shared a mosh pit with.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

All the metalheads I've ever met remind me of Eddie from season four of Stranger Things.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Juggalos are a subculture of people who feel ostracized and such, are generally VERY welcoming to people deemed "lesser" by the world. It's a community that celebrates being yourself. If you're not hurting anyone, you do you!

I think it's kind of beautiful even though the music is not for me.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

Same, Juggalos are cool as long as they don't get control of the radio

[–] Norin@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Same here.

I can’t say I like the music, but them clowns is good people.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The right-wing man-o-sphere is also full of young men who've been ostracized so it could go either way on this point alone.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah but the shared interest for juggalos is he music and for the manosphere it's arrogance and misogyny

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

iirc one of the main juggalos got a furry suit made to match his kid and goes to furry conventions with them. So id assume theyre allies