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Good on paper, never works in practice.

There's a lot of propaganda.

If whichever nation gives it a try next bucks the trend and learns from the mistakes of the past instead of doggedly repeating them, it could go well for them.

Are we talking actual idiologie communism, the Red-Scare Version, or what some people say they are but are actually totalitarianists or stalinists aka dictators with red paint?

We already have some communism implemented there is cooperatives, communal gardens , the fediverse. I think private companies should be allowed to exists but cooperatives should be more encouraged. I believe we should have a state and the concept of money too

Humans are inherently evil. Communism is a beautiful thought experiment that works really well in small select groups, but fails to tolerate the inherent evils that befall it when it begins to scale.

I love it as an idea. I'd love for it to work. Unfortunately, it's just yet another experiment that falls victim to the "imagine a spherical cow" kind of thinking.

It's inspired many good ideas, though, that do work. Marx had many good points.

What kind? It's good to have it as an ideology amongst others to weigh and debate between ideologies and implementations of mixture of them.

There's a time and place for everything and it's called 'College'.

I'm not an expert or an economist, mind you. I'm also jaded after America's change in power. It's a noble idea and a step up from capitalism. But while capitalism ends in mass surveillance and police states so the wealthy can profit, communism is similarly likely to lead to centralized identification, albeit with benevolent intentions. Allocating resources from the top down requires a system of administration, which is a hierarchy and an unchecked power. But Classification is the first step to genocide, and we've seen multiple times now that any country can fall to fascism in the span of 15 years. Just because you have a wonderful benevolent communist government now doesn't mean it'll always be that way.

Maybe there are ways around this. Part of me wants to say that only names and dates of birth (not race, gender marker, country of origin, income level) should be recorded, but even names in many cases can reveal a person's gender and sex at birth, which is itself a form of classification. Maybe you could have a single-blind ID system, only including a name and DOB, where only citizens have access to their IDs, and governments do not store that data centrally. The hope being that if people's needs are taken care of that the incentive to steal another person's identity goes away. There are flaws, I know.

Again, maybe there are ways around this. I'm more partial to anarcho-syndicalism because it can more easily exist without a centralized ID system. Having traditional government functions decided democratically among and between the worker-run syndicates also helps stop fascists because if any one syndicate goes fascist, they get cut out from everyone else's resources and get starved out.

However, if a communist government can exist without collecting data, then I'm potentially in favor of it.

If forced upon people it will never work. But here's my unpopular opinion, it could work if it was build slowly within capitalism as a corporation and letting people join voluntarily.

Anything beats capitalism

Gimme

Needs technology to scale.

It's also one of the great filters; we get nowhere without it.