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[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Jokes aside, pizza really is a pretty healthy complete meal. As with all things, moderation is the most important factor.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 46 points 1 week ago (5 children)

A more accurate description would be an "imbalanced" meal. It contains ingredients that would give you needed nutrients, but at the wrong levels. Too much fat and carbs, vs "vegetables" which are also processed and full of added sugar and salt. It's not the worst thing you could eat, but it isn't great. To your point, that's why moderation is so important.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That is highly dependent on how you make it. Same thing could be said for most meals. A homemade pizza will almost always be better for you than whatever crap dominos is peddling these days

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago

That's fair. I don't even want to know what a Jack's pizza is made out of. Probably compacted crack.

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's highly dependent how much cheese you put on it, really. Just the base and some (quality) toppings aren't the problem, but if half of the content is cheese, that's way too much fat and energy. Personally I don't like cheese so I only sprinkle a minimal amount of it on top, but I've observed most people feel the total opposite and drenching the whole thing in cheese seems to be the preferred way to consume it...

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

A thin crust veggie pizza is awesome but I'm not sacrificing the amount of cheese so I just eat less pizza :(

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

It doesn't really change that its main component is bread and cheese, with a very low content of vegetables. But sure, better than the extremely low bar you set for yourself.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

Absolutely. Even if I make pizza from scratch with whole wheat flour and homemade sauce, the amount of vegetables I can reasonably put in/on it is so limited. If I want to mimic a typical pizza as it is served in Germany, I need about 2 mushrooms for the whole thing. Even with the sauce, there is just so much sauce I can put on the dough - and so many veggies I can put on it - before it just becomes a soaky pie. And this is nowhere near a ratio I can really approve of. Our usual dishes consist of 50-80% vegetables. With pizza, I feel like we are just eating 50-80% dough.

Just because whole wheat is good, tomato sauce is good, veggies are good, and a bit of cheese is good, doesn't mean the combo of it is anywhere near balanced and healthy. We usually balance it with a huge salad but honestly we just don't like filling up on bread/dough, so we rarely eat pizza.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If it's homemade (including the sauce) on thin crust of proper bread dough (again, homemade, without adding too much salt) and you're generous and careful with the toppings (avoiding salty and/or highly processed stuff), the only inherently imbalanced thing is the cheese (which is excessive for something with such a high proportion of saturated fats).

Even the carbs in the pizza base if you go for thin crust are actually less than, for example, in a sandwish.

Then again, homemade pizza done from scratch including the sauce and the bread dough takes more than an hour to make, so people overwhelmingly buy pizza already make (or at least ready to bake), and then it's loaded crap because you really can't trust industrial food.

Also even for homemade there is a tendency to add as toppings tasty stuff like pepperoni, which is industrially made for example for preservation it's loaded with either nitrites (which increases the risk of colon cancer) or salt (which increases the risk of cardio-vascular problems)

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, so basically, a personal, pepperoni and mushroom flatbread pizza, and a salad, and like, a fistful of grapes or an apple.

That's a reasonably healthy meal, provided you can keep the grease from the meat and cheeses to a reasonable level.

You could also replace salad with just... peas, carrots, beans, whatever, maybe you go with a mango or orange or something for the fruit, who knows.

And of course, if you make/acquire the ingredients for making your personal pan pizza, you have a lot more options for tweaking their nutritional content.

The whole wonderfulness of pizza is that its basically a blank canvas, that tends to work well if you can balance flavor profiles.

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[–] arality@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ahh moderation, my arch nemesis.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Everybody needs a goal to aim for, so I make sure to keep well away from reaching it so as not to lose it as a goal.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

It's just bread, it technically has other stuff but in insignificant amounts, it is literally cheese bread.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago

Moderation is the issue with pizza, at least for me.

I've been making pizza and pasta from scratch. It's basically the exact same ingredients:

  • flour
  • tomatoes
  • cheese

But when I'm making pizza I know that I can almost double the amount of flour because we are eating way more pizza than pasta.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It really isn't though. Low on fibres and high on carbs.

[–] foo@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Traditional pizza isn't all that high in carbs. The US style pizza pies are.

[–] mika_mika@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lots of saturated fat on the cheese.

Beyond that with tin crust, homemade pizza tomato sauce (which is delish, by the way) and properly chosen and generously added toppings (avoid processed meats, especially with too much salt, and make the toppings be more by weight than everything else), it can be pretty healthy.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 0 points 1 week ago

Is it? I doubt there are many fibers in there. Unless you count the tomato sauce it doesn't really contain a lot of vegetables either. I'd be really surprised if tomato sauce on the average pizza is healthy, it's probably so over processed that all the fibers and vitamins etc are gone and it's just a big carb nuke. And a pizza contains too much fat as well. A good pizza might be decent compared to most fast food, but I can't imagine the average fastfood or supermarket pizza being a healthy meal.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don’t believe that’s organic or whole wheat.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

By 'aged' they mean left sitting on the counter overnight.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cheese is aged by default, and as long as there's some real milk in it, its somewhat organic.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Organic in the chemical sense of carbon based...

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, fresh mozzarella not so aged. At all really.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

I use mature cheddar on mine

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If it's more than a week old, it's aged.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That’s the best age for pizza!

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Also, cheese is not aged milk.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

You can easily buy wholemeal flour, it just costs a lot more than plain white flour. At least it does here. I recently ground up some rolled oats in a spice grinder to make crackers, along with a bit of sourdough starter. Worked out ok (and cheaper than wheat flour) but the dough I got from oats was pretty heavy and thick.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It contains at least one whole wheat.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

X to doubt.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

It might, but far more likely it's white flour

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Pizza typically contains almost every food group. Grain, vegetable, meat, dairy, salt, cholesterol, and microplastics. It does not usually contain candy however.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

It does not usually contain candy however.

There's a market to look into then.

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This is why I roll my eyes at people who talk about how healthy honey is. Like sure it's better for you than sugar for very minute reasons, but at the end of the day, it's still sugar. But you know... honey is "natural". Marketing is a helluva drug.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Sugar is also natural. 🤷‍♂️

Technically, even high-fructose corn syrup is natural. It's just the natural sugar in corn, extracted and concentrated.

[–] ezterry@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While many sources of fructose naturally and no reason to think they behave differently than HFCS, high fructose corn syrup to my knowledge uses enzymes to convert glucose to fructose to raise the percentage. (And then re-add corn syrup to adjust the fructose/glucose to a desired ratio)

How much healthier a simple syrup (sugar split into a 50% glucose and 50% fructose) vs a 60/40 fructose/glucose HFCS is very debatable..

Really just hates it when you buy something without sugar/HFCS and find it had artificial sweeteners instead.. When I wanted no additional sweeteners. looks at canned fruit in cabinet

[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

The fake sugar garbage has gotten out of hand. I had to start making my own granola because most of the granola had fake sugar in it. I'm glad I did tho. I can make it with whatever I want in it and no one can stop meeeeeee!

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Technically, even morphine is natural. It's just the natural opioid in poppies, extracted and concentrated.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

I ferment my honey and it certainly makes me feel good.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wouldn't compare Honey with sugar, at least honey has some benefit compared to sugar.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095754825000195

It is just as bad as sugar, but you need less of it since it is sweeter.

[–] 69420@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] MTZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I just had one about 20 minutes ago. 10/10

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd rather not taste your nut

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Did you make one for David Amram?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the same spirit: "I'm a 2nd degree vegetarian because I only eat meat from herbivores"

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago

Kinda how first degree royalty is a Hapsberg, or a 3rd degree twice removed felony is politics?

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