Don’t run Newsom. Run AOC
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It'll be Harris all over again. JD sucks but in no way would I be enthusiastic about voting for Newsom.
Anyone but Newsom. Please.
I'd prefer him over Harris I think, but wouldn't be very happy with either
So far I think he’s better than Hillary Clinton. I also don’t really know what he stands for.
He stands for corporations as far as I can tell. Occasionally he is on the right side of things, seemingly on accident.
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Everyone responding "at least he isn't as bad as that other corporate Democrat" is just sad.
I think there’s no way in hell Harris would win a democratic nomination. The stink left on her from losing to Trump will be very hard to overcome.
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I was not and would not be enthusiastic about voting for Harris - but I would vote for her.
I straight up would not vote for Newsom.
I think we have our answer.
It's AOC.
Democratic primary is going to be INTERESTING. God I hope we don’t fuck this up.
While I would love AOC, she would be the youngest by quite a bit. Plus, she probably needs to win something more than a house seat. It is great having a party leader that is so young.
The problem with the party leadership route is that party insiders are the only ones who get to vote on it, and when that's the electorate she can't even beat Gerry Nadler. If she can run in a race with real people voting on it I think she could beat anyone.
Why? Explain why.
Copy and pasting from my other comment
Her highest accomplishment is being a House of Representatives member. This is incredibly rare. Most people that become president have been elected in a statewide election, or had military, or were a part of the office in some way already (VP, secretary, etc).
To go from being a House of Representatives member to being president is a massive uphill battle.
I hope she runs and joins other democrats on the debate stage. It would raise her profile in a big way. She would have my vote for sure. But I would not get my hopes up simply cause of her experience level.
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Vance is the lowest possible bar you could compare him to...
That’s good, Gavin needs a low bar or else he won’t clear it…
Why do young men have such bad taste in politicians? Jfc
Young people tend to have less experience and education. The younger you are, the less of both you have.
IDK about that man, even when i was an inexperienced idiot (necessity for past tense arguable) I knew not to vote for obviously shitty people.
That's something I always struggle to understand. I was a young moron once, but even young after I SAW the lies of W, the fear mongering about gays, about liberals about Muslims... It was constant fear this fear that while they started illegal wars and crashed the economy.
Ever since that bullshit I'm STILL waiting for an apology and admission of guilt for the shit they pulled before I'd ever even consider voting R.
Meanwhile they have just gotten worse and worse.... You don't have to be a PhD historian to see that the GOP lies and steals and fear mongers. It's all they fucking do.
In 30 years they've never provided a solution to ANYTHING
They only idea they've ever had is tax cuts... That's it...
The poll was most likely only JD Vance and Newsom.
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Fuck Newsome. More of the same bullshit Dems that lost to Trump…
I can't wait for angry liberals to blame leftists for another historic loss after they choose to run Newsom against all reason.
All the more reason to start making sure people know they can vote in D primaries without any obligations in the general.
The only way Newsom gets the nomination, is if billionaires convince people not to vote in the Dem primary. And they've already started their propaganda.
So we absolutely need to make sure Dem primary turnout is as high as possible.
The neoliberal voters will show up in the primary, we can't just let them have it.
I don't think I have voted for the eventual winner in the Democratic primary since Obama in 2008. But the current primary process is broken, and only exists to rubber-stamp the establishment candidate. And remember that in 2008, Obama was not the establishment candidate, his win was not expected. If anything, the party has made the primary process even more of a game since then.
Having said that, though, if Newsom is the primary winner I will hold my nose and vote for him, because he will still be better than any Republican. (And if Trump is still alive by then, we will know that whoever gets the nomination will be in his pocket, anyway).
I would fix the Democratic Party primary process by doing it all in one month. Four weeks in May or June, 12 to 13 states per week, rotating by region. Fuck all these states who think they are special by having "first in the nation" primaries or caucuses, where the one Podunk town with 13 registered voters gets to be in the news every 4 years. Every state is important.
Oh, and do it on Saturday. Let the media cover it like it's fucking March Madness.
If Newsom wins the nomination, he'll probably win the general...
But that means he'd get to appoint a neoliberal as DNC chair, and they're sure as shit not going to let a progressive get the nom in 2032, Newsom would run again. Then he'd be out or name a new DNC chair again...
And 2036 we won't get a fair primary either.
We can't afford to go back
I don't care if you're a lifetime green party voter, anyone that considers themselves left of the Dem party still needs to vote in Dem primaries to drag the party left.
There aren't even Green primaries. You lose nothing voting in the Dem primary, and are not obligated to anything in the general.
Americans are so brainwashed that they think Newsom is some kind of hard core left winger as opposed to the truth that he’s only slightly less social conservative than Hillary Clinton.
He’s also very much a fiscal conservative. I don’t think the Prop 13 limited budgets in California really allow anyone to do anything major without years of congressional battles.
He’s basically Hillary, but California, yes.
Yeah, he is only as socially liberal as his ambitions allow. He was in favor of same sex marriage ahead of the DNC when he was mayor of San Francisco. Now he’s in favor of platforming bigots to increase his popularity.
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It needs to be someone not buried in donor class money. Period.
This is a class war.
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Yes, Gavin is a way better conservative than the couch fucker, but that ain't saying much.
Gavin will run on a blue ticket on a 2016 maga platform, mark my words.
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Oh look it’s the same pattern that’s been happening my entire life.
Gross.
Can we stop supporting establishment candidates? The fall in line crowd isn't falling in line and we would all benefit from having a progressive in office.
How is it even a comparison? Who the hell would vote for couch fucker?
Newsom is very conservative and fucks over the poor rather than couches
I used to think Newsome was possibly a psychopath, and I still do, and I thought it might hurt him in a national contest, compared to a “home town boy” like JD, on account of relatability, but now I think it might be the opposite, or at least also true that JD is too relatable for his own good…We know a little too well who he is…
He’s the bosses dickhead kid. You know, the one that would get drunk and tear around in his dad’s boat like an asshole with his other rich dick friends, got in trouble for that awful wreck in high school but nobody ever heard what came of it? Damn shame about that guy and his daughter. Yeah, he’s one that turned a wrench in the shop for a couple weeks but it wasn’t for him, the oil and solvents and whatnot, too hard on his hands. He went off to college for a few years, came back and took over the manager job his dad’s been promising you for a few years. Now he’s your boss, and he just cut your hours. Happy Thanksgiving.
That’s fuckin’ JD Vance.
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Stop trying to make Newsom happen.
/this isn't directed at you OP, you're just the messenger
Vance is just leading them to the local furniture store.
This is the equivalent of saying people prefer a dried turd over a puddle of vomit. At least the turd is easier to get rid of.
The repubs should definitely nominate newsom over vance for president. He'd be a much better candidate than all of this maga crap.
Imagine what sort of a pathetic, defective, beta cuck, weirdo loser you'd have to be, to admire and want to support JD Mandel ! That guy is unfuckable, like Ted Fucking Germ Cruz !
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