The student's mother was sentenced to nearly four years in prison for child neglect and federal weapons charges.
You are responsible for your child. Until they are 18, they are an extension of you. You programmed them. No excuses.
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2025
205 points (99.5% liked)
News
33043 readers
3810 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
I sense that "child neglect" and "federal weapons" chargess mean there was at least one gun fast and loose and loaded in the house. That sounds like a powder keg waiting to explode in any case.
Yeah; a 6 year old will play with anything they get their hands on, you sure as hell don't leave a gun where they can get it. Especially with ammunition available...
The Wikipedia article about this case suggests the kid knew what the gun was. He threatened to shoot another student, and probably shot the teacher intentionally. This isn't just a case of a kid randomly playing with a gun.
Of course he's not criminally responsible for that because he's six, but he probably needs an intensive intervention to make sure he doesn't turn into a monster.
Yeah, those parents def fucked them up bad..
This doesn't jive with my life experience at all. If my family could have "programmed" me, I would have turned out very differently. Also all my siblings are wildly different people.
The development of living beings is a messy process and there are significant uncontrollable elements.
Is leaving your gun lying around where a 6 year old can acquire and use it to shoot someone one of those sinifificant uncontrollable elements?
No, because the existence of some uncontrollable elements doesn’t erase all the controllable elements.
This woman did something very wrong and controllable, which is why she’s in prison.
Nothing fits into a perfect box, but if you breed you are responsible for the outcome until 18 regardless. If you think your kid might shoot someone… it’s your job to prevent that.
Not everyone is qualified to be a parent.
“Breed”
Getting a clearer picture now.
Do you? Or do you just want to feel a certain way?
Nobody knows how parenthood will turn out, my friend. Nobody is qualified to decide who is qualified... Good.
I guess it depends on the household. I could say my mom did a great job at educating us. My siblings, mom, and I hold very similar values.
“You programmed them”?
Really? That’s an extremely naive take.
No, you just strongly agree because you’re obsessed with babies.
It also outlined how one instance in which Ms Zwerner allegedly told Ms Parker that the child was in a "violent mood" and had made threats against another child.
Ms Parker allegedly "had no response" and refused to "even look up" when concerns about the child were brought to her.
Ms Parker's lawyer argued that she could not have known what would happen, and that Ms Zwerner has exaggerated the extent of her injuries.
Could not have known? Despite being told the child was making threats to other students?
And exaggerated the extent of her injuries? She was fucking shot by a 6 yo. What’s to exaggerate?
That's not even close to the worst part. After Zwerner reported his "violent mood," two other teachers reported to Parker that students were telling them he had a gun... The first searched his backpack and turned up nothing but believed it could have been on his person (they saw him tuck something under his sweatshirt.) Parker's response was that his pockets were too small to hold a gun. Second teacher had another student report he had flashed them the gun in his pocket. Second teacher wanted to search him, but Parker forbade him because the first teacher had already searched his backpack.
That's pretty fucking bad...
I agree she deserved this ruling...but it's a shame that this was a public school and she will be collecting tax payer dollars because a mother could not control her 6 year old child..
Well, no. She's collecting tax payer dollars because a school administrator didn't do anything when told that the child might have a gun.
Well, no. The mother had the gun in the house that the child used. Thankfully the mother is now in jail and the administrator is facing charges still...The craziest thing out of all this is...The student was not charged with wrongdoing and is reportedly in the care of a relative and enrolled at a different school.
The student was 6 years old ffs
And a school shooter...your point...yea sorry gonna sound harsh hear but the child should be in some sort of mental facility...this is just a snapshot of a long criminal future..
Wow, you are scum to write off a child's entire life like that. Yeah, you're definitely an American "Christian conservative" (quoting another of your comments from elsewhere). I'm writing you off - it's a shame you didn't get the same treatment you're advocating when you were a kid.
I didn't shoot my teacher with a gun..so there is that..no need for name calling... The truth usually stings a little...
It often stings a LOT, but I can see why you wouldn't know that considering your obvious disdain for it.
hahaha you funny.. call out one lie...ill wait for it.....waiting for it........still waiting for it...........
Housing in a "mental facility" (at least here in the US) would make that outcome all but certain. The kid needs regular assessment and help from professionals, sure. With a loving home and safe caregivers through the rest of childhood it will be possible for him to recover and reconcile with his actions, so I hope that's what he's getting.
Mental facilities really aren't very good. He will have a better chance of turning his life around while living in a home, with a family, and recieving mental health therapy.
Well... yes? Did you read the article? Or the thread you're replying to?
There are two court cases here (as you seem to understand...) - a civil case against the school, which awarded monetary damages to the teacher (as civil cases often do), and a criminal case against the mother, which awarded prison time (as criminal cases often do). Quite literally, as I stated in the post you replied to, the monetary damages she's collecting are because the school administrator didn't do her job. The prison time the mother is serving is because she had an unsecured firearm in her house that the child used. They're two different things.
So it is a shame that it isctaxoayer dollars. But, the tax payers voted for the school board that didn't establish a culture of responsible administrators. And when I say the tax payers voted... really I mean they didn't. Turnout for such things is terribly low. Taxpayers need to establish that administrators like this should never be around children, and anyone who lets it happen should be voted out. They should also demand more money for schools so that there is more to pay for better teachers and administrators. It really shouldn't be all on them. But noone else is going to make it happen.