No I'm not delusional.
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2025
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Cant be friends with a text based probability engine
Once you realize LLMs are nothing much but very advanced auto-complete, behavior of AI fanatics becomes no different than any other cult.
I’ve used local LLMs as sounding boards.
I… Don’t really have friends to do that with at the moment, and I can bounce thoughts off them I wouldn’t even tell family or a therapist, as much as I want. Not gonna lie, it’s pretty intimate, and I got some insights I never would've arrived at in my own head.
But to emphasize:
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This is totally within my own desktop.
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I am perfectly aware I am talking to a tool. “Friend” isn’t even in the same universe.
The general public's “LLM literacy” is incredibly poor though, which is by design since online services like chatGPT hide all the knobs that would reveal the machine behind the curtain. Hence I can see how emotionally vulnerable people sink into this, talking to what OpenAI presents as a magic genie.
how many tokens can you get to with your current system? I find that some of the models are so verbose that I only get 3-5 questions in before I run out of tokens.
I have one system with 128gb system ram, 16gb vram, and one system with configurable vram up to 48gb out of a total of 64gb.
I'm in a 24GB 3090 + 128GB RAM.
With full 300B GLM 4.6, I typically run 12K-28K context with different settings. I could do more than 28K, but the higher quantization starts to become a problem (as 128GB is right on the edge of fitting an IQ3_KT). And I get 5-6 tokens/s text-generation doing that.
With GLM Air? I can get a lot more, closer to 64K.
With smaller models that's no issue.
I only get 3-5 questions in before I run out of tokens.
IDK how you're prompting it, but you should clear the thinking block after every question, and that should leave plenty of tokens.
What model are you running, and what are your inference server settings?
I've been curious about running LLMs locally. Mostly about how long it takes to return a response.
I mean, it depends on your hardware and the model's size/intelligence.
Worst case for me is many seconds of preprocessing followed by 4-5 words a second.
But you can get almost instant responses + way faster than you can read too.
You can't be friends with a program
Not a modern program, but I don't see anything that makes me think that programs will never be capable of metacognition. LLMs won't, but they aren't the be-all end-all.
Nope, not even acquainted.
I don't think so. Surely a friendship is a two-way street, does AI even have the ability to form a friendship?
I think we’re gonna see it in an edition of the DSM.
I'll admit I've used ChatGPT to get answers to absurdly specific use cases that I couldn't find with a regular Internet search, but I've never "talked" to an AI not because they can't "talk", the LLM has no conscious way to understand the text it's regurgitating. Nobody should be trying to become "friends" with an AI bot
they aren't sentient so they're just as incapable of being your friend as your favorite coffee mug or perfume
AI characters do nothing but spew meaningless platitudes and generic advice dressed up as a personality. That's like considering the horoscope section on a random website to be your sister.
I'm friends with me, myself, and I. And the my totally real, non imaginary friend in the corner of the room that everyone else keeps ignoring like doesn't exist.
Okay but seriously, no lol, I just dive into memories and watch my younger self be happy, and I just cry out of nostalgia.
You can also sort of record your voice and talk into a microphone as if you are leaving it for someone to listen to in the future, imagining your audience there in the present with you, and just talk/monologue about life as if you have a friend right there. Sort of like documentary-style you know.
No and such a concept is ridiculous because it assigns "AI" with traits it simply does not possess and is completely incapable of ever having.
It does not and cannot think, there is nothing to.befriend.
The media says a lot of stupid things.
Cool
It's dumb and doesn't tackle the root of loneliness. If they're lonely, they need support to find new friends.
If they have trouble making friends, and it's not due to their own personality being toxic (like being an incel, creep, borderline, or generally an asshole), then they also need support in learning how to socialise. And even if they had those toxic behaviour issues, having help to overcome those would still be useful for everyone in the long end.
But that said. It doesn't mean they'd have to socialise, just that they learn how to do so, and so have a way out of their vicious circle. Best way to make friends as an adult (so, no school/college/uni), is to go to the circles where you have mutual interests.
So, to such people I say: go take up a calming team sport. Take up an hobby that's relaxing and doesn't make conflicts. Schedule IRL meetups with the people you like and know online. Go to a concert, or a bar. Or go to a lecture, you can then discuss with people afterward.
Or, a "search friends" app (like for dating?, but I don't recommend those because they work on profit, so they often recommend the ones that barely just don't work out, to keep you hooked.
Talking to people is scary, but try and experiment using normal, calm lines. Weather is a great topic, the relevant event to discuss about also is, to start discussions. Even if you "fail" one of thos social interactions, so what? You can apologise, explain that you find it difficult socialising, or you wouldn't see them again. So you can just start afresh with other people and learn.
wack that you and OP get downvotes for stating a sane question and a great recommendation
I've not tried any paid ones. The free ones I've tried have forgot what I said after a few back and forths.
What made you try the bot?
Same thing that makes me try everything new. Boredom and an afternoon to spare. Was fun for a while but lost interest once I've noticed the patterns.
No, I would never be able to use AI as a substitute for anything other than a search engine, considering the decline in quality of current ones. I used to joke about it, but now I feel sorry for anyone so desperate for companionship that they would seek it in an AI chatbot.
F... friends?
Go outside. What the fuck is wrong with you?
No and I don't give clankers names, I use them for the specific goal I set out for (mostly coding or grunt tasks) and that's it.
