This is the first time I've heard trump attack SNAP benefits. Previously he had just said his hands were tied to pay out SNAP. Now the mask is slipping further. He wants to actively go after SNAP benefits rather that it just being collateral damage from the shutdown.
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It's not collateral damage, they've always paid SNAP in previous shutdowns. This is his choice and against judge's orders.
It’s not collateral damage, they’ve always paid SNAP in previous shutdowns. This is his choice and against judge’s orders.
Keep in mind, I'm not talking about matters of law. I agree with you about SNAP being paid during shutdowns (including trump's 2016 shutdown). I was just speaking about the narrative trump has around it. Prior to this the GOP position has been "we'd love to pay SNAP if it wasn't for those nasty Democrats". Now trump is saying that SNAP itself is a problem, which is new.
I suspect Democrats refusing to cave like they had previously is really getting to him. He has gone unchallenged for so long that this seems to be the one area where his immunity can't save him.
The frog finally noticed it was being boiled and hopped out. Increasing the heat doesn't do anything anymore.
he doesnt want the epstein files to be released, which would require the us house seat member to be sworn in.
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In any normal country, cutting off a large swathe of peasants from food would cause a violent revolt.
I mean... it probably will happen here too. We are less than a week in and many (blue...) states are doing everything they can to keep people alive. But this will get exponentially worse probably starting friday/saturday and then day by day.
The real question is who the peasant revolt actually targets. Considering that the people who will be most impacted (because their state governments don't care about protecting their lives) are the ones who will be soaking up "We can't eat because the radical liberals want our kids to cut off our dicks?"
Tbh it would be darkly hilarious if there are riots in red states that are starving people, and much less disruption in blue states that are trying to, you know, keep people fed and alive
We already saw that plenty of angry white people with guns will gladly drive a few hours away to kill some n****rs.
You can also bet the chuds would be glad to bus people to "protests" and actively not check what is in their backpacks or in the gun cases slung over their shoulders.
Red states: “Send in the national guard!”
bootlicking intensifies as any protests are met with salutes and a hearty “thank you for your service”
It's relatively simple to imagine what happens. Starving people will do anything to not starve, if food is in that store over there, they will loot it. This quickly results in a spiral of unrest as the social fabric starts to unravel. The longer it goes on the harder it becomes to correct it. You can't just turn the food faucet back on, the stores are looted and destroyed and shipments aren't coming in. The logistics of feeding people becomes increasingly complicated and difficult and local law enforcement become overwhelmed. The military gets called in but unless they bring food with them, it is unlikely to successfully stabilize the situation - again, starving people will do anything to not starve.
It's a hugely stupid move to withhold food from a significant segment of your population - a key component of bread and circuses is the bread.
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The real question is who the peasant revolt actually targets.
Yeah, the vast, vast majority of people affected by this don't have the means to travel anywhere near anyone who's responsible for it. The US is HUGE.
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The AI bubble propping up the dollar is why a lot of people still feel secure. Once that pops and everyones retirement looks bleak from the market crash and the value of the dollar slips further making things like food even more expensive things will get more interesting. Many people stopped buying many of their non essential goods because they knew Trump is bad for the economy too, so those people are probably still treding water financially for now.
Nvidia is something like 16% of the GDP.
Now, it makes no sense to compare valuation with GDP, but that’s still incredible!
No it's not. The idiot that posted that doesn't understand that you can't directly compare market cap (the accumulated worth of a company) with an annual value like GDP. Comparing Nvidia revenue with GDP might make sense, but that's a fraction of 1% and doesn't push the collapse narrative they're pushing.
Russell 2000 index is a better indicator of the US economy than the popular things that everyone looks at. Namely the SP500, Dow, or their top performing component companies. The small / mid companies in this index are more reflective of the actual economic state of America. It's been stagnant for the past 5 years. Basically it shows that real America hasn't been doing well.
It was stagnated in Trumps first term even. The last big move the Russell 2000 index made was a rally when Biden won. Otherwise it's been pretty reflective of the past 10 years of Trump era policy. They've been fucking over middle and lower American business.
Everyone focusing on the biggest companies is essentially watching the rich get richer. Contrast that with the small and mid size companies is reflective of the disparity. In other words the signs you're looking for are already there.
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In what world are you living where the dollar is propped up?
It lost over 10% against all major currencies since Trump took office.
If you’re planning a holiday in Europe* you’ll notice that the dollar is worth shit now.
- (if you’re part of the ever shrinking American upper middle class and can afford to take a vacation and travel)
The AI bubble is a bubble, aka not tangible or sustainable gains. The AI bubble also inflates the value of the dollar. When the AI bubble pops the value of the dollar goes down, likely by a lot. These are all fairly safe assumptions so I fail to see how it wouldn't follow that the the AI bubble is propping up the dollar.
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They know. They desperately need to manufacture civil unrest to justify their police state in time for midterms. Miller, Rubio, and others all moved their families to military bases during the shutdown in preparation.
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Only the most foolish autocrat would starve his own populace.
While at the same time not paying the police or military.
He got some money to pay the military at least somewhat as a donation from some heir to the Mellon fortune.
kagis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Mellon
During the 2025 United States federal government shutdown, Mellon donated $130 million to help pay members of the United States Armed Forces. The New York Times noted that the donation would equal approximately $100 per service member.[45]
Some other tidbits:
In the second quarter of 2023, Mellon donated $5 million to American Values 2024, a super PAC affiliated with the presidential campaign of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.; that, together with a large donation from billionaire Gavin de Becker, accounted for 97% of donations the PAC received through the end of June 2023.[40] By March 2024, Mellon's donations to the PAC totaled $20 million,[41] and by July 2024 it had increased to $25 million.[14]
Between April 2023 and March 2024, Mellon donated $15 million to MAGA Inc. (Make America Great Again), a Trump-affiliated super PAC.[41] On May 31, 2024, Mellon gave MAGA Inc. $50 million, one of the largest disclosed donations ever.[42][31] By July 2024, Mellon had given $75 million toward supporting Trump's campaign,[14] and by October, the total amount donated to the PAC had reached $150 million.[43]
Mellon faced media attention after comments describing his political views in his 2015 self-published autobiography "panam.captain" came to light.[31][30] In it, he calls social safety net programs "slavery Redux" and those receiving benefits "slaves of a new master, Uncle Sam".[6] He also writes that black people became "even more belligerent" after social programs expanded in the 1960s and '70s.[31][30] Mellon defended his comments in the book and did not apologize.[12]
Heh, also:
As of 2024 reporting, he had donated to only two Democrats: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, for her 2018 campaign, and Tulsi Gabbard, for her 2020 presidential campaign.[30] He said he donated to Ocasio-Cortez to disrupt the Democratic Party.[12]
The amount that was donated was less than $100 per active duty servicemember. Any good will that bought has already long since elapsed. It got them to lunchtime on the first day.
Trump says a lot of shit
The most civilized society is three meals away from barbarism.
Let's put this classic phrase to the test
Top Trump Officials Are Moving Onto Military Bases
Stephen Miller, Marco Rubio, Kristi Noem, and others have taken over homes that until recently housed senior officers.
They are putting far too much faith in the security of our military bases. Not only is it horrifyingly easy to get on, but even some authorized individuals may be sufficiently motivated.
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Blue states need to stop sending federal taxes to DC. The soft coup needs to happen.
Weird that a republican is cynically ruining people's lives to pass a budget that will cynically ruin people's lives.
We made your healthcare costs explode and now we've taken your food. What will you make us take from you next?
Arrest and impeach
Honestly, I fully expected him to do something like pay out SNAP benefits to solid red states like Texas or Florida and deny them in places like New York or California. Then he would say "See we paid out what we could. If only Dems had opened the govefnment sooner you blue states could get your benefits."
He gives out to his base, and they can cheer how horrible he is to those nasty blue states.
I really dont know where we go from here.
I think everyone knows where we go from here. We're just not supposed to say it out loud.
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Yeah right. In other words, the American people are not important enough to do something now. What a piece of shit.
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I think you might not be reading the room on this one, Trump, legalities aside.
I donated to my local food bank.
You might consider doing so, if it's viable for you. My state is providing some state-level food aid this month. Some states don't have any state-level aid coming, at least that they've announced.
If someone's infant doesn't have infant formula or something, and they can't afford to get it, I expect that that's a pretty bad place to be in.
@trump : You already had place 1 & 2 for several days now, but as of today both are a 35 streak! No way a new record can escape you ! CONGRATULATIONS !! (too soon?? /s)
We'll pay half of it, no, we'll pay it months later, no, we won't pay it unless the shutdown ends, no.....
Can't imagine why elections went dramatically toward blue yesterday.
snap out of it diaper boy
So basically he is telling the judge to fuck off and yet nothing will be done. Again what's point of these court orders if they can be ignored?
Not his decision to make.
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