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In any normal country, cutting off a large swathe of peasants from food would cause a violent revolt.
I mean... it probably will happen here too. We are less than a week in and many (blue...) states are doing everything they can to keep people alive. But this will get exponentially worse probably starting friday/saturday and then day by day.
The real question is who the peasant revolt actually targets. Considering that the people who will be most impacted (because their state governments don't care about protecting their lives) are the ones who will be soaking up "We can't eat because the radical liberals want our kids to cut off our dicks?"
Tbh it would be darkly hilarious if there are riots in red states that are starving people, and much less disruption in blue states that are trying to, you know, keep people fed and alive
We already saw that plenty of angry white people with guns will gladly drive a few hours away to kill some n****rs.
You can also bet the chuds would be glad to bus people to "protests" and actively not check what is in their backpacks or in the gun cases slung over their shoulders.
Red states: “Send in the national guard!”
bootlicking intensifies as any protests are met with salutes and a hearty “thank you for your service”
It's relatively simple to imagine what happens. Starving people will do anything to not starve, if food is in that store over there, they will loot it. This quickly results in a spiral of unrest as the social fabric starts to unravel. The longer it goes on the harder it becomes to correct it. You can't just turn the food faucet back on, the stores are looted and destroyed and shipments aren't coming in. The logistics of feeding people becomes increasingly complicated and difficult and local law enforcement become overwhelmed. The military gets called in but unless they bring food with them, it is unlikely to successfully stabilize the situation - again, starving people will do anything to not starve.
It's a hugely stupid move to withhold food from a significant segment of your population - a key component of bread and circuses is the bread.
There is actually not that much food in a given supermarket. In large part because of logistics and food waste costing a lot of money. Its why "hole up in the grocery store during a zombie apocalypse" actually wouldn't work out all that well.
And the moment a community lives the dream and burns down a kroger, there will be no more shipments to that or any aldi or whatever in... quite possibly that entire state.
At which point you have a hungry populace, regardless of income, and are back to "who can we shoot to make this go back to normal".
Yes, that is the social fabric breaking down. The answer is going to be basically Lord of the Flies. Imagine Hurricane Katrina but all over the country.
Isn't what typically happens in other countries is the shelves empty long before the riots start? Except we might still be a long ways from that.
I think the problem here is that most cities are now full of rich people so stealing from a kroger is unlikely to cause a real problem. In fact what will most likely happen is that richer people will pay higher prices and poorer people will steal more food and grocery profits won't change much.
Though I would expect rural areas would get hit harder.
The issue is that most countries under this kind of chaos aren't... selectively starving their populace. The people dependent on SNAP... it gets complicated but let's simplify and say "aren't shopping at kroger".
So the idea that "the poors" might rob a supermarket? That actually becomes very plausible. There is food. They can't afford it. It is life or death and, this is America, so we have more guns than books. So there will probably be people who try to pocket a bag of rice and... depending on how long this is projected to go on, we'll either see more security guards and cops at the supermarket or an even faster push to lock everything behind plastic because kroger et al don't want humans in their supermarkets and want to make everything curbside pickup.
But as people get more desperate? Suddenly that assault rifle in the trunk of their car starts looking like a viable option. And THAT is when the store just shuts down and "the lower middle class" becomes just as fucked over.
This is not good.
Yeah, the vast, vast majority of people affected by this don't have the means to travel anywhere near anyone who's responsible for it. The US is HUGE.
If I understand their bullshit narrative, it's more that you'll send your kids off to "Democrat (sic) controlled schools" and then one day Johnny comes back as Susie. I mean, this just happens all the time, thanks to the liberals, doesn't it?
The AI bubble propping up the dollar is why a lot of people still feel secure. Once that pops and everyones retirement looks bleak from the market crash and the value of the dollar slips further making things like food even more expensive things will get more interesting. Many people stopped buying many of their non essential goods because they knew Trump is bad for the economy too, so those people are probably still treding water financially for now.
Nvidia is something like 16% of the GDP.
Now, it makes no sense to compare valuation with GDP, but that’s still incredible!
No it's not. The idiot that posted that doesn't understand that you can't directly compare market cap (the accumulated worth of a company) with an annual value like GDP. Comparing Nvidia revenue with GDP might make sense, but that's a fraction of 1% and doesn't push the collapse narrative they're pushing.
Russell 2000 index is a better indicator of the US economy than the popular things that everyone looks at. Namely the SP500, Dow, or their top performing component companies. The small / mid companies in this index are more reflective of the actual economic state of America. It's been stagnant for the past 5 years. Basically it shows that real America hasn't been doing well.
It was stagnated in Trumps first term even. The last big move the Russell 2000 index made was a rally when Biden won. Otherwise it's been pretty reflective of the past 10 years of Trump era policy. They've been fucking over middle and lower American business.
Everyone focusing on the biggest companies is essentially watching the rich get richer. Contrast that with the small and mid size companies is reflective of the disparity. In other words the signs you're looking for are already there.
I don't in principle, disagree with you. But Russell 2000 is +50% in the last 5 years and I certainly wouldn't characterize that as "stagnant." S&P is +96% in the same period.
In what world are you living where the dollar is propped up?
It lost over 10% against all major currencies since Trump took office.
If you’re planning a holiday in Europe* you’ll notice that the dollar is worth shit now.
The AI bubble is a bubble, aka not tangible or sustainable gains. The AI bubble also inflates the value of the dollar. When the AI bubble pops the value of the dollar goes down, likely by a lot. These are all fairly safe assumptions so I fail to see how it wouldn't follow that the the AI bubble is propping up the dollar.
I think they meant that in the looser sense of it propping up retirement account values.
This is why I have nothing in the stock market.
That's an ethically strong choice but I'm not gonna lie, if that includes retirement, I don't think its too practical. I know anarchists active in local organizing that still have retirement funds. You can't help anyone if you're also in the hole.
They know. They desperately need to manufacture civil unrest to justify their police state in time for midterms. Miller, Rubio, and others all moved their families to military bases during the shutdown in preparation.
I mean won't the MAGA just be happy they can starve and die for their dear leader? Like I can imagine someone in an interview say, "I love Trump so much I will die from starvation for him. He has a plan that we don't understand yet."