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I've gotta rewatch that Guy Pearce Time Machine movie now

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I remember buying a Meater thermometer. I thought it was so cool to be able to monitor your cooking temperature from my phone.

But then I learned two things:

  • your phone needs to be within Bluetooth range of the thermometer
  • your phone must send the data to their cloud, only then for you to go to their app to read the data

There is no way for you to read the data locally.

I sold it and replaced it with a fully local thermometer that works without Bluetooth. Sure it can't show it on my phone but damn if I am going to let a company chain me to their data center just so I can read a fucking thermometer.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

There really needs to be a directory of "not so smart" devices. Like one that's still readable via bluetooth, but not requiring an account for data harvesting.

There's so fucking much potential in modern tech that is being squandered by every fucking company trying to be their own walled garden data brokers. And the results of all that data collection are abysmal! When's the last time most of us have seen an ad that legitimately informed us of something we didn't know existed but ended up wanting?

The productivity and quality of life lost because everything doesn't just have an open/publicly documented interoperable API is immeasurable.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Dude this is like my core ethos. It irritates the shit out of me. Like you said, just endless squandered potential for fucking what? So dumb. Not to mention all the energy waste throwing around all that data and endlessly recording and storing it.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Let me know when you’ve created this community.

EDIT: I made !ethicalconsumerism@sh.itjust.works long ago and never really used it for anything. Seems like a good use of it to me.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

isn't this just Louis Rossmann's extended community? (not claiming that he is the all father of it, just a notable name)

https://www.futo.org/about/what-is-futo/

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Main_Page

Let me know too

When's the last time most of us have seen an ad that legitimately informed us of something we didn't know existed but ended up wanting?

The point of advertising isn't always about informing you of something new but to remind you of the brand.

There isn't a soul on this planet that doesn't know Coca Cola but they still advertise.

Targeted advertising isn't the main market for mass data collection. The main market is political. Cambridge analytica used subliminal messaging to help the Antichrist get elected in 2016. They were caught, but other companies are still using the technology today. They're just hiding it better and using it smarter. That, along with the decline of late stage capitalism, is why the devil's servants are gaining influence all over the world.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Check out "works with home assistant"

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If you have to be in Bluetooth range, why the fuck does it need to talk to a cloud service?

To snitch on you and spy on you.

That's what I said!!!

The device was less than useless without Internet access.

Tbh I probably should have done more research before buying it.

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[–] obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If I made a thermometer that I could view wirelessly, I would only make an offline option. I am not going to try to design an app and maintain a server that will forever eat my money for a thermometer.

I really want one that integrates with Home Assistant. The biggest issue I have is knowing when my grill is running cold. The thermometer I have now only tracks current temperature and not throughout the cook.

That's shortsighted. First, you make the thermometer that depends on your app and server that eats money. Then, when you have enough users that the server costs are significant, you hold all the thermometer's for ransom with a new subscription service that more than covers the cost of the server, introduce ads into the app, and sell user data under new terms that users are forced to agree to in order to continue using their thermometers. If you can figure out a way to shoehorn an "AI" in there, do that too for an additional subscription and make sure very sure that the people not paying more for the AI know that they could pay more to have AI.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I frequently miss calls I’m expecting because of the shit anti-spam. Carriers have been allowed to just ignore the problem of spam calls since they started because we don’t have a functioning regulatory apparatus.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Actually, a lot of the difficulty comes from regulations put in place because carriers were shit.

In one of the first cases involving Net Neutrality, the Madison River Telephone Company (now CenturyLink or whatever they've changed their name to this month) started blocking Caller ID from VOIP sevices, and eventually blocked Vonage outright.

The FCC came down hard on them, and in the aftermath one of the things they did was essentially prohibit carriers from blocking CallerID spoofing, because there's a lot of legitimate uses for it.

For instance, when I can load up the VOIP client on my cell phone to make a work call, I need the CID to show my office number. Or if someone works at a call center, their PC dials out with a phone number that's the switchboard number for the center.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wanna know what's even more fun? When your city's transportation system leaks allllll your info, that you can't not give to them because you need the Bus Pass to get around in the city, and all you get is a "We're sowwwyyy 🥺" email.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Wtf you need anonymous cash refillable bus passes

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I used my phone number to create an oracle account and a couple days later i started getting spam calls

[–] bananabread@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 days ago

That's just oracle sales

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Oracle is like the mob. You’re in for life.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago
[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I called Verizon. They blamed me. They said it happens to everyone. They offered me a 4$ per month service so I can block numbers that never repeat anyway.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If you have an IP based phone connection, you can do that in your router.

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

We're at the point whete calling me is useless. My phone is on silent, vibrate if you're lucky. Email me or text me. I'll get back to you. If you need to get a hold of me, you're already marked urgent in my phone. If not, good luck.

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I totally get that. My phone has been on silent for the last 7 years. Do not disturb for all but direct family members.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate when I have to answer unknown calls like when im expecting a call from a doctor's office or something. Usually my phone is set to ring only when a saved contact is calling me.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I usually put the phone near the speakers with some war videos from Insurgency: Sandstorm and go with my regular day.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

wakes up

Looks at phone

"Do not disturb is on until your turn it off."

sighs in relief

checks once again before sleeping

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"List of Items Which Fall Through the Letter Box After I’m Dead

A letter inviting me to apply for a gold credit card at 17 % APR;

A bill from the Electricity company for £46.22;

A voucher entitling me to enjoy any king size pizza for £4.99 (garlic bread not included);

A letter sent to the wrong person, she no longer lives here;

An advertisement from a bank, promising the lowest rate mortgage available;

Some dust;

A postcard from a long forgotten girlfriend;

A demand for council tax from Islington Borough Council;

An offer to invest in Jupiter’s high income fund ISA;

A reminder from Central Islington Library concerning overdue books;

More dust, leaves too;

A First Direct bank statement, showing a credit balance of 342.39;

A birthday card, (unopened)."

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

We shouldn’t have to establish and maintain a perpetual personal relationship with the original manufacturer of the equipment and services we use.

I never give companies my phone number, and every organisation I engage with gets their own bespoke email address so I can kill it when their data breach occurs.

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

A dozen every day? I'd change my number after a dozen total.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I don't know over what time period, but I've had my main number for well over 15 years. I still don't get spam phone calls. I've had my business number for probably 6 years and it also doesn't get spam.

However, I've got a throw away number that I cycle out every few years for a few bucks and I get endless spam calls on it. Apparently I'm getting numbers that people have given up because they got too much spam. Now I'm worried if I ever need to change my main number I'll start getting crazy amounts of spam calls. Because for the throw away number I just check it once a week or if I need to get a code. I don't have the calls forwarded to my phone so I literally do not care about the spam.

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh... You have no idea how some of us live.

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9am to 8pm every day. Calls minutes apart and they even sometimes overlap.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

Having to update everyone on my new number would be just as annoying and wouldn't even eliminate the spam problem.

[–] radicallife@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why do I need to login to my toothbrush

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To verify ypur age. Obviously.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Ohhh you mean that toothbrush.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would you buy that in the first place????

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

And not return it and continue through the registration process

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 days ago

I made one mistake years ago and my email address was ruined. Still get dozens of spam emails to this day.

I swapped to a new one last year, but only family and friends get the real one. I am using relay emails for everything, different email address per account.

I've already been caught in one data breach this year but my bacon has been saved by this and I was able to just disable the single email address.

[–] Bonus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

*Now, More Than Ever.*™

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Welcome to the ~~future~~ present

Have a look around

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Whenever I read posts like this, I wonder his I'm barely affected by robocalls. There's like one a month, usually from outside the country.

Is that a Europe thing? And if so, are we just a bad "market" or is there some form of legality (or enforcement) involved?

[–] VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the U.S., robocalls and unsolicited calls still prevail (to some degree) because of a outdated telephone caller ID system. It's replacement, STIR-SHAKEN, has yet to be done, much less widely accepted (all the phone brands and networks). Look how long it took us just to get RCS texting.

[–] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

In the US it depends on how good the call blocking is on your service.

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